Guest guest Posted July 24, 2002 Report Share Posted July 24, 2002 Sri Srimathe Ramanujaya namaha Dear Members, I came across an interesting passage while reading the famous book on Hinduism by Dr.C P Ramaswamy Aiyar. I quote as follows: "As early as the 2nd century B. C. the renowned Besnagar Column had been erected by a Greek named Heliodorous, who had been converted to the Bhagavata or Vaisnava faith of which the Pancaratra doctrines then formed an integral part; its scriptures were Satvata Samhita, the Mahabharata, and the Bhagavata and Visnu Puranas. The origin of the Pancaratra doctrines which form the basis of Srivaisnava culture has been traced further back to the well known Purusasukta of the Rg-Veda. The Satapatha Brahmana refers to the Pancaratra sacrifices performed by the primeval Narayana, the idea of Nara and Narayana (Primordial man and the deity Visnu) being an integral part of ancient Indian thought" The entire book can be found here: http://www.uni-giessen.de/~gk1415/ >From the above, I have a few questions: 1.) Does any one have more information about the Besnagar Column? 2.) What is the approximate provenance of the Pancharata Agamas which we know today? Are they pourusheya or apourusheya? Thanks in advance. Regards, Malolan Cadambi [ The Besnagar column is regarded as great proof not only of the antiquity of the Vaishnava / Bhagavata faith, but also of its catholicity. Heliodorus was the Greek ambassador of Megasthenes to India. The pillar he erected is considered holy by the locals in Besnagar (see Sri Tirumanjanam Kannan's article on this matter: http://www.ramanuja.org/sv/bhakti/archives/jan98/0119.html ) In this regard the following site is also interesting: http://www.gosai.com/chaitanya/saranagati/html/vedic-upanisads/vedic-archeology.\ html (pardon me if the URL wraps around). Those interested in the antiquity of the Bhagavata tradition may also wish to see http://www.ibiblio.org/radha/p_a045.htm which refers to Panini and his usage of the names Vasudeva and Arjuna. The Pancaratra are considered paurusheya because they are authored by Paramatman Narayana himself. For the same reason, they are considered wholly authoritative by the tradition. Please see http://www.ramanuja.org/sv/bhakti/archives/mar2000/0055.html for some elaboration of this point. -- Moderator ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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