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SrimathE Ranga Ramanuja Mahadesikaya Nama:

 

Sri Ranganatha divyamani pAdhukAbhyAm Nama:

 

SrI:

 

AdiyEn would like to know what does Pancha mahAyagyam mean?

 

In GitA, Emperuman says that by performing yagyams people make the devas happy

and in turn they get benefitted through Emperuman residing inside those devAs.

He adds that the performer of the yagyam can get swargam and also can get

'mOksha sAdhanam' as the phalam of their yagyam. What are these 'mOksha

sAdhanams'?

 

AdiyEn is a mite apphrehensive that the above question is meaningless. This

might be because of the knowledge(?) through mere book reading and not from any

scholar, which is the RIGHT way to learn GitA.

 

AcharyALum BhagavathALum KatAshikkavEnum

 

 

 

AdiyEn,

 

Padhuka dAsan,

 

AravindalOchana dAsAnu dAsan.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Here is an explanation that I provided to my geeta class in

discussing this section - for whatever it is worth.

 

Deva-s - these are phenomenal forces of nature or one can also say

the presiding deities of these that provide the fruits of the action

in their sphere of operation.

 

Yagna - A cooperative endeavour wherein everyone puts forth thier

best in the self-sacrificing mode for the benefit of the totality.

Everybody pitches in their best in the cooperative task in

surrendering completely ones selfish motives and work for the benefit

of the totality that is the sacrifice at the yagna. To give an

example if I am an employee I perform my best my assigned task for

the benefit of the organization that I work then it is spirit of

yagna. If eveyone does that then the production potential of that

field of action (this is deva) have to bless with rains which are

fruits of the action. This is what parasparam bhaavayantaH - Your

offering is at the yagna is taken by the devas and devas in return

have to rain down the results of the yagna (the production potential

have to give the appropriate result and that is the Law) - This law

of cooperative endeavour is the law of action and resutls are

bestowed by the creator himself along with the creation. Ultimate law

giver is He. The functions are distributed to different deva-s in

the sese the in each field of activity the laws goving that activity

is compartmentalized. This essence of the turth is symbolized in

terms of external yagna-s and offerings wherein again there is a

coopertive actions from all participants. In the 8th ch. Krishna

relates this back to internal yanga - adhiyagna and he is the yagna

purusha for that too.

 

If one looks at correctly - one can see beauty of Krishna's teaching

and how universal and scientific the teaching is. Hence Geeta stands

out as eternal manual for human developement - yoga shaastra for

brahma vidya.

 

Moksahm is the highest human edeavour and for that one requires

supreme sacrifice that is the very surrenderence of ones ego at the

alter of the totality. That is can happen only if one recognizes the

nature of the problem - Thus j~naana is needed for one to understand.

What is the nature of the problem and what is type of j~naana that is

required - here the achaarya-s differ.

 

Hari OM!

Sadananda.

 

 

 

 

 

--- Aravind Gopalan <balaji_gop wrote:

>

> SrimathE Ranga Ramanuja Mahadesikaya Nama:

>

> Sri Ranganatha divyamani pAdhukAbhyAm Nama:

>

> SrI:

>

> AdiyEn would like to know what does Pancha mahAyagyam mean?

>

> In GitA, Emperuman says that by performing yagyams people make the

> devas happy and in turn they get benefitted through Emperuman

> residing inside those devAs. He adds that the performer of the

> yagyam can get swargam and also can get 'mOksha sAdhanam' as the

> phalam of their yagyam. What are these 'mOksha sAdhanams'?

>

> AdiyEn is a mite apphrehensive that the above question is

> meaningless. This might be because of the knowledge(?) through mere

> book reading and not from any scholar, which is the RIGHT way to

> learn GitA.

>

> AcharyALum BhagavathALum KatAshikkavEnum

>

>

>

> AdiyEn,

>

> Padhuka dAsan,

>

> AravindalOchana dAsAnu dAsan.

[Guest guest]

bhakti-list, Aravind Gopalan <balaji_gop> wrote:

>

> would like to know what does Pancha mahAyagyam mean?

>

 

Dear Sri Aravind,

 

The panca mahayajnas or five great sacrifices are part of

the ordained daily religious duty of all married householders.

They are to be done with cooperation by both the husband and

the wife -- what the husband does not do the wife must do and

vice versa, given certain constraints. These sacrifices are

"great" not because of expense or detail but because of their

importance. They are

 

(1) deva-yajna / offering to the gods: this is to satisfy

one's debt to the devatas who represent the powers which

sustain life (factor in the will and indwelling presence

of the Paramatma of course). This is done through

offering of rice, etc., to agni, for example.

(2) brahma-yajna / studying the Vedas (brahma) for no purpose

but for their propagation. This takes the form of reciting

the Purusha Sukta and some anuvAka of one's Veda, or if

not possible, extra Gayatri Japa. The purpose is to keep

one's knowledge of the Veda current and fresh.

(3) pitR-yajna / offering to one's ancestors and pitR-devatas.

This is satisfied through the daily pitR-tarpaNa.

(4) manushya-yajna / offering of food and help to fellow human

beings. Typically this is in the form of providing food

for whatever guests (atithi) arrive *unexpectedly*. Contrary

to public belief, invited guests are not "atithi"! They

are known as a "abhyAgata". One will naturally take care

of people whom one has invited. This also takes the form

of charity to others.

(5) bhUta-yajna / offering of food and help to non-human creatures.

This is of the form of feeding birds, cows, etc., to the

extent possible.

 

The last two yajnas constitute partial atonement for all the

himsa that naturally happens while leading the life of a householder.

> In GitA, Emperuman says that by performing yagyams people make the

> devas happy and in turn they get benefitted through Emperuman

> residing inside those devAs. He adds that the performer of the

> yagyam can get swargam and also can get 'mOksha sAdhanam' as the

> phalam of their yagyam. What are these 'mOksha sAdhanams'?

 

The process is as follows. Through selfless performance of one's

duties according to one's outlook and position in life, beginning

with the five great sacrifices which purify one's food and which

consequently are the basis for bodily sustenance, and continuing to

other religious acts, the mind is purified and prior conditioning

and karmas are reduced. As a consequence the mind is more amenable

to contemplation on the proper nature of the individual self and its

relation to the world and the Supreme. Through such contemplation

the blissful nature of the individual self is perceived and the

contemplation proceeds lovingly to Bhagavan who is the innermost,

Supreme Self. As this process continues one becomes truly steadfast

in bhakti-yoga which is the actual moksha-sAdhana.

 

Bhagavad Ramanuja describes the initial stage of this process:

 

Through money which is properly and lawfully earned,

one should perform the great sacrifices. Only

having performed these great sacrifices should

the body be sustained, in accordance with the rule of

the wise. As the Veda declares, "When what is consumed

is pure, the mind becomes pure. When the mind is pure,

contemplation becomes firm (Chandogya Upanishad)."

 

nyAya-arjita-dhanena mahA-yajna-AdikaM kRtvA tac-chishTa-

ASanena+eva SarIra-dhAraNaM kAryam, "AhAra-Suddhau sattva-

SuddhiH sattva-Suddhau dhruvA smRtiH" ity-Adi-SruteH

 

(Gita Bhashya 3.8)

 

The next line of the Upanishad quoted continues this thought

by saying that when such contemplation is attained, one

is released from all bonds.

 

Hope this explains to some degree.

 

|| namaH paramarshibhyaH ||

 

aDiyEn rAmAnuja dAsan

Mani