Guest guest Posted September 3, 2002 Report Share Posted September 3, 2002 Pranams I was reading Desikar's Saranagathi Deepikai. In 8th sloka, he says, "ghyanam balam......te gunashatka maadhyam".(please forgive me for the spelling) The meaning written was "Though you have many kalyana gunas, gyanam,shakti, balam,aishwaryam,veeryam, tejas these six are the important gunas. All the other gunas are inside these gunas". I have heard from many bhagavathas about Lord's gunams viz. Souseelyam, soulabyam, madhuryam, karunyam. I don't know why Sri Desikan is particularly mentioning these six gunams. I request the bhagavathas to explain me more on this. Pranams once again raji sridhar Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2002 Report Share Posted September 6, 2002 bhakti-list, RAJI SRIDHAR <sridharaji> wrote: > I was reading Desikar's Saranagathi Deepikai. In 8th > sloka, he says, "ghyanam balam......te gunashatka > maadhyam".(please forgive me for the spelling) > > The meaning written was "Though you have many kalyana > gunas, gyanam,shakti, balam,aishwaryam,veeryam, tejas > these six are the important gunas. All the other gunas > are inside these gunas". > > I have heard from many bhagavathas about Lord's gunams > viz. Souseelyam, soulabyam, madhuryam, karunyam. I > don't know why Sri Desikan is particularly mentioning > these six gunams. Raji, Briefly, Sri Desika lists these six qualities because, as you yourself have mentioned, they are the basis or foundation for the others. The kalyana-gunas of Bhagavan cascade as follows. The Upanishads describe the svarUpa or essential nature or Bhagavan as having the five following fundamental attributes: svarUpa nirUpaka ---------------- 1. satya -- unconditional existence (reality), without any limitation of any sort 2. jnAna -- unconstrained knowledge, omniscience if you will 3. ananta -- infinitude. There is no limitation to Bhagavan's essential nature, either qualitative or quantitative 4. Ananda -- unconditioned blissfulness 5. amala -- bereft of any blemish Because these gunas reveal (nirUpaNa) the essential nature (svarUpa), they are known as svarUpa nirUpaka dharma-s. The word 'dharma' here means attribute or quality. These five attributes are based on several Vedanta vAkyas, primarily from the second chapter of the Taittiriya Upanishad, which mentions with great fanfare the first four of these. Building upon this we have the next set of attributes, which Bhagavan makes manifest for the sake of universal creation, sustenance, and dissolution, and for the delight of His devotees. Principal among these are the six Swami Desika mentions above: 1. jnAna -- knowledge (once again!) 2. bala -- strength 3. aiSvarya -- rulership 4. vIrya -- uncompromising prowess 5. Sakti -- energy 6. tejas -- splendor There are esoteric components to these six qualities that I am not qualified to detail, but my understanding is that these qualities are the basis for advanced meditation. They are mentioned again and again in the Pancaratra shastras and repeatedly by Sri Ramanuja himself in his works. In the introduction to his commentary on the Gita, Sri Sankara also describes Lord Narayana as 'eternally endowed with jnAna, bala, aiSvarya, vIrya, Sakti, tejas' /jnAna-balaiSvarya-vIrya-Sakti-tejaH sadA sampannaH/. Because these qualities are made manifest by the Lord out of his essential nature, they are known as 'nirUpita svarUpa dharma-s'. All the other kalyana-gunas are derived from these six attributes. Others who know more detail are invited to clarify further. aDiyEn rAmAnuja dAsan, Mani Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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