Context and out of context.

[Guest guest]

DEAR BHAKTHI GROUP MEMBERS

This is regarding the translation of chitran chiru kAlE by Mr visu and response

by Sri GopAlan.

 

The greatness of Edu and other vyAkyAnams not just lie in interpretations and

meanings but interpret in such a manner that a. it is not out of context b. it

is not contradicotry to any other verse and c. it has got cogence with the

preceding and succeding verses.

In this regard, it may be observed that though grammar is also important other

aspects are primary.

 

I stongly suggest one and all to go through original text of Edu avathArigai for

4-6 'thErpArai yAm ini" thiruvoizhmozhi where a discussion took place regarding

why this thErpArai should come after vERRirundhu 4-5 of thiruvoizhmozhi. It was

declared by sri embAr that this is asanghadirEva sanghadhi.

Such is the greatness of the commentaries.

We should understand that we are not trying to write meanings are building up a

lexicon.

Thank you

Padmanabhan

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear All.,

 

I would also like to add the following as my final humble views:

 

Everyone is entitled to their own interpretations and anubhavams

- no doubt and taken.

 

tiruppavai 2nd verse has the phrase -

"Vaiyathu...... NAtkAle NErAdi" -

NAtkAle - early morning is the ONLY meaning.

 

It is well accepted that we must try to understand

Arulicheyal (Divya prabandham) only in the light of

poorvacharya vyakhyanams through our respective

Acharyans.

 

A meaning can be

1. completely wrong (abatham)

2. correct literally - but out of context

3. correct both literally and contextually

4. correct both literally, contextually and also in line

with the poorvacharya's interpretation.

 

One of the prime reason for the sacredness of the

Poorvacharya vyakhyanams are not just because it is done

by them. But, also because, those who did write the

vyakhyanams - did not write as their own; they wrote

it with the one single aim in mind that

 

"Will this vyakhyanam EmperumAnAr (Swami Ramanuja)

thiruvullathuku ugappaga irukkuma??"

(even when the vyakhyana kartha lived much after

Swami EmperumAnAr).

 

So, one of the main goals of vyakhyanam is to interpret in

such a way that this will bring happiness to the

heart of Sri Ramanuja.

 

So, if we keep this goal in our mind the rest of the

things will fall in place. and will not lead us to

invent our own meanings - it may not be wrong, it may

not be improper (grammatically or otherwise) - yet,

it is not the BEST simply because it is not in line with

Poorvacharya's thinking (i.e SriVaishnava Philosophy).

 

It is probably the easiest thing to invent novel meanings,

but what is difficult is to be novel and also be in line

with Poorvacharya's thinking. (because, they left us no

job to be done, except learning and practicing.)

 

Vasaka Dhosha: Kshanthavya:

 

adiyen rAmAnuja DAsan

-arulmari.

 

 

On Fri, 20 Sep 2002 23:01:30

Padmanabhan wrote:

>DEAR BHAKTHI GROUP MEMBERS

>This is regarding the translation of chitran chiru kAlE by Mr visu and response

by Sri GopAlan.

>

>The greatness of Edu and other vyAkyAnams not just lie in interpretations and

meanings but interpret in such a manner that a. it is not out of context b. it

is not contradicotry to any other verse and c. it has got cogence with the

preceding and succeding verses.

>In this regard, it may be observed that though grammar is also important other

aspects are primary.

>

>I stongly suggest one and all to go through original text of Edu avathArigai

for 4-6 'thErpArai yAm ini" thiruvoizhmozhi where a discussion took place

regarding why this thErpArai should come after vERRirundhu 4-5 of

thiruvoizhmozhi. It was declared by sri embAr that this is asanghadirEva

sanghadhi.

>Such is the greatness of the commentaries.

>We should understand that we are not trying to write meanings are building up a

lexicon.

>Thank you

>Padmanabhan

>

>