Dvividha in Srimad Bhagavatam: Coordinatized??

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/Om naMO nArAyaNAya ||

 

/namaskAram to all.

 

Concerning the question of immortality. While I may not answer the original

question, it may be worthwhile to consider coordinates of death. It seems that

death is cordinatized in the sense that it takes place at a certain time and in

a certain place. That is, we live in a world which has at least four dimensions.

 

It seems that the taking of /amrutA gives one freedom from time as far as death

is concerned. But for such a gift to be vaild, the place at which the gift is

given is probably fixed. One may be able to extend it to one's local world

(/lOkaH). That is, as long as one lives in the local world, where he or she got

the immunity from mortality in time, that person would continue to enjoy

immortality. If the person did not ask for immortality in particular worlds, and

if that person left the original /lOkA or domain of the gift and moved to

another world or domain, the time dimension would assume a differnt framework,

and the immunity might cease to operate.

 

The 14 /lOkas are each local worlds. Two such are /bhU/lOkaH and /dEva/lOkaH.

 

In the present situation, the question would be if Dvididha moved from the

original world where he got his immortality. I do not know if this would answer

the original question.

 

The Lord in His /narasimhA avatAr neutralizes the coordinates of place when

killing /hiraNya/kacIp. That is he created a domain to which coordinates do not

apply.

 

Again /RAhu and /kEtu partook of /amrutA in /dEva/lOkA and when they did not die

after an attempt to kill, they did not leave /dEva/lOkA, but performed penance

and regained a position equivalent to that of the other planetary devAs. In

fact, in the hierarchy, it appears that /kEtu is next only to /ravi, the Sun.

 

/nalan/taruJ collai nAn kaNTu/koNTEn, nArAyaNa ennum nAmam.

 

/vantanam.

 

Visu

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Namaskaram Visu.

 

You have raised very interesting point. Something like

'projection of time'. Yes, all these are verily under

time and space. In fact, in Bhagavatham the king

Raivatha spends some time in devaloka and when he

comes back he sees another yuga. His daughter marries

BalaRama bhagawan.

 

Anyway all of us have soul that is ever-lasting and to

a person who is an atma-jnani, long life etc. are only

limiting factors. That is why Yogi's don't crave for

siddhis or demigod roles etc.

 

I think on hierarchy of planets, there are divergent

views. I think we should have the great lord

Brihaspathi after Sun God. He is the minister of the

assembly. But talking of powers, there are beliefs

that Rahu oppresses Sun and Kethu is even more

powerful than him. All this are however as seen by the

observer on the earth and is an illusion. Sun is the

real source of all life on earth. We respect him and

call him as Surya-Narayana.

 

warm regards,

Balaji S.

 

 

 

--- Visu9 wrote:

> /Om naMO nArAyaNAya ||

>

> /namaskAram to all.

>

> Concerning the question of immortality. While I may

> not answer the original question, it may be

> worthwhile to consider coordinates of death. It

> seems that death is cordinatized in the sense that

> it takes place at a certain time and in a certain

> place. That is, we live in a world which has at

> least four dimensions.

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