Fwd: kamba rAmAyanam

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Dear SrI Mani Varadarajan:

 

SrI Selva nampi of ThirukkOttiyUr

is generally recognized as the AchAryan

of PeriyAzhwAr prior to the time he was

commanded by the Lord to go to the Madhurai

King's sabha to establish NaarAyana Parathvam.

 

PeriyAzhwAr until then was not tutored in

VedAs and Upanishads . He was just doing Maalaa

Kaimkaryam at SrIvilliputthUr. Due to Vada Perum Koil

UdayAn's anugraham and anupravEsam , He was able to

win over great scholars and performed the kaimkaryams

that he alludes to in the Paasuram that you referred to.

This is my understanding . Other bhakthAs are requested to

comment.

 

V.Sadagopan

 

At 10:04 PM 10/31/02 -0000, you wrote:

>bhakti-list, "Sadagopan gopan" <sgopan@c...> wrote:

>> Dear SrI Mani Varadarajan:

>>

>> Selava Nampi of ThirukkOshtiUr was

>> PeriyAzhwAr's AchAryan and not a benefactor

>> in the sense of Sadayappa VaLLal was to Kamban.

>

>Dear Sri Sadagopan,

>

>Do we really know that the Selva Nambi mentioned

>by Periyalvar was his acharya? I am reminded of

>his own statement "peethaka aadai pirAnAr pirama

>guruvaagi vandhu ennaip payiRRi paNi seydhu koNdAn"

>which would suggest that the Lord Himself was

>his acharya. This is supported by the traditional

>taniyan, "gurumukham an-adhItya..."

>

>ramanuja dasa

>Mani

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Dear SrI Venkat:

 

Your question on the right hand of Moolavar

placing a flower on the head of a Siva Lingam

below the bed of the Lord at Thiruvananthapuram

generated the following thoughts :

 

It is true that the right hand of Moolavar touches

the head of a small siva lingam . One sees the flower

on the head of theLingam only in rendered pictures .

As the sEvArthis know , the giant size of Moolavar

at Thiruvananthapuram has to be enjoyed (taken in)

in three sections thru three vaasals . The lingam is

at a position below the Naaga paryankam.

 

Here are some random reflections:

 

1. Lord Sivan (Ahirbudhnyan) is a grand son of SrIman NaarAyaNan

(Thirumazhisai's Naanmukan ThiruvandhAthi). The flower placed

on the head of Siva Lingam could be viewed as an affectionate

presentation of a Flower from the garland (Vyjayanthi

Maalai) resplendent on "the grandfather's " chest (Thiru Maarbhu).

This can be viewed as the head of the family

(SrIman NaarayaNa Anantha PadhmanAbhan) recognizing

the deeply respectful Ahirbudhnyan, the grand son ,

who performed Prapatthi to Him thru the Manthra Raaja Padha SthOthram.

On the prAkAram of Moolavar, You can also have the darsanam

of the archai of Narasimha para Brahmam.

 

2. If one has to provide support for the conjecture

that the Moolavar is offering KusumAnjali (Pushpa

AarAdhanam) , one can not see how one (PerumAL)can be lying

down and casually place a flower on the supposed

object of worship even without looking at the Siva

Lingam . Under normal circumstances of

worship , One will be standing face to face

in revenrence and offer(place) the flower.

 

3. Thiruvananthapuram is a VaishNavite Dhivya desam dear to

Swamy NammAzhwAr . When Swamy AlavanthAr heard one Thiruvananthapuram

paasuram , he travelled immediately to Thiruvananthapuram and

worshipped the Lord there and lost track of time so much

so that he missed the appointment to recieve initiation

on the Yoga Rahasyam , which was his grandfather's family

treasure from a direct sishyA of his grandfather (Swamy Naatha Muni).

 

4. Finally , Swamy NammazhwAr's paasuram (TVM 10.2.6)

pasage gives us a perspective on this ArchA Moorthy :

 

"KumaranAr thAthai thunpam tudaiytthaa GovindanArE"

 

The reference here is to BaaNAsura Yuddham , where

Lord Govindhan met Both Rudra Sivan and His second

son, SubrahmaNyan as allies of BaaNAsuran and chased

them away in the battle . Lord Govindan , who blessed

His grandson once (Hara Saapa vimOchanan) to get freed

from the sin of plucking one of the five heads of

his father( BrahmA's) is referred to here as

"KumaranAr ThAthai thunpam tudaiyttha Govindhan"

 

Swamy NammAzhwAr states in this paasuram that

the Garbha graham is full of multitudes of dEvAs

--who owe their origin to Sri Ananatha PadhmanAbhan)--

have thronged to offer their worship ( aarAdhanam

of the Jagath Kaarana vasthu).Swamy NammAzhwAr instructs

us ( as the ParamaachAryan to join the nithya sooris and

DevAs to offer our worship (and recieve pushpa praaAdham

at the end of our worship like Rudra Sivan) without hesitation .

 

Taking all these in to account, we can safely say that

Thiruvananthapuram is an ancient VaishNavite dhivya desam

worshipped by our AchAryAs for many centuries. There are

many unique Siva Sthalams in KeraLA like Thirusoor ,

Naagar Koil et al.Thiruvananthapuram for reasons

stated is a distinct and undisputed VaishNava dhivya desam

from ancient times.

 

" padamuday aravil paLLi payinRavan Paadham

nadaminO namarkaLuLLIr Naam umakku aRiya chonnOm "

 

--TVM of Swamy NammAzhwAr: 10.2.8

 

(Meaning): SrI PadmanAbhan has taken His abode

at beautiful Thiruvananthapuram and is reclining there

on Adhi Seshan of wide hood . His sleep appears to be

a practised one (PaLLI payinRavan) and is some thing

(Yoga nidhrA) from which He can not be awakened easily.

Oh my kith and kin and blood relations! I suggest that

you all travel to Thiruvananthapuram and offer Your

homage to SrI Ananatha PadmanAbhan's sacred feet .

I instruct you to do this (kaimkaryam) so that you

do not miss the opportunity to ber redeemed." What

I have gained from the Jn~Anam and intution bequeathed by

our Lord , I am conveying this aadesam " to my close

circle of blood realtions".

 

This is the clear message of Prapanna jana santhAna kUtasthar,

Swamy NammazhwAr to us about Thiruvananthapuratthu

Aadhi NaaRAyanan.

 

SrI Hari Lakshmi SamEtha Sri Anantha PadhmanAbha

SwaminE Nama:

 

Oppiliappan Koil VaradAchAri Sadagopan

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>2) Sri Anathapadmanabha in Thiruvananthapuram- the moolavar reclines on

>Adisesha, and his right hand places a flower on a Siva Linga.

>

>>>>>>> I am not sure about this... as I havent had the oppourtunity to

>visit Thiruvananthapuram.

>

>Those who have had the BhAgyam of visiting this Dhivya DEsam please

>clarify.

>

>regards

>Venkat