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Dear Sri Vaishnavas,

 

I agree that one does not perform puja in the reclining position

(logical). But... can't Sri Vishnu do this? I have actually had the

privilege of visiting this Divya Desam (Thiruvanantapuram), and remember

the pose of the Lord and it's relation to the Siva Linga.

 

I am researching Vishnu's relation to other deities of Hinduism in the

Vedas and Puranas. I was wondering if any references (from these

scriptures) exist to show that Vishnu is the sole deity capable of

granting moksha. For the references to be considered, the sources cited

cannot come solely from scriptures dedicated to the exploits of Vishnu

(for example, a researcher who attempts to prove the authenticity

of the Bible cannot use quotes from it as sole evidence of it's

authenticity- a problem of circular argumentation)

 

I feel I have approached the right groups of people for such a request.

Any references that pertain would be greatly helpful...

 

adiyen,

 

Krishna

 

 

 

 

On Sun, 17 Nov 2002, Padmanabhan wrote:

> DEAR BHAKTHI GROUP MEMBERS

>

> Asmentioned by Sri ks venkat there is no mention of shiva worship in

> rAmAyaNam.

>

> My grandfather used to say regarding chidambaram GovindarAjar sannidhi

> that,when somebody does pUja he does not do on a reclining position..Does

> one perform pUja on a reclining position.?

> Apart from that, I would like to clarify that there are three dwArAs for

> this temple.First is for thirumuGamandalam of the Lord. This is dedicated to

> nithya sUrigaL's worship. The second dwAra is emberumAn's nABhikkamalam

> which is for worshp by brahmha who came up from this and shiva who was his

> progeny and other dhevathAs. The thrid dwArA is embeurmAn's thiruvadi which

> is for srEvaishnavites like us.(AchArya hridhayam 185

> sasainya, puthra , sishya, sAthya , siddha, bhOsura archanathukku, mugha,

> nAbhi, pAdhangaLai dwArathraiythraiyathalE).

>

> Besides, I add herein the following few lines:

>

> thiru voi mozhi second ten of tens-irandAm pathu- deals with emberumAn's

> kAraNathvam-Cause of creation.He is the three causes of creation.

> Sri azhagia- maNavALap- perumAL- nAyanAr explains this in detail in AchArya

> hridhaym-220-....' kaLvA' 'thErthan' enRu vachana prathyakshangaLaik

> kAtti...'.

> The Supremacy is being explained:

> a.By dialogue=vachanam- ' "kaLvA emmaiyum, yEzhulagum ninuLLE thORRiya

> iRaiva"

> enRu, veLLERan, nAnmuGan, puLLUrdhi kazhal paNindhu yEthuvaRE" thiru voi

> mozhi

> 2-2-10.

> shivA desired that emberumAn should take boon from him. EmberumAn assured

> him that he will take boon from him at the appropriate time. Accordingly, as

> Lord Krishna,emberumAn approached shivA and asked for a boon as

> follows"rukmini pirAttikku oru piLLai vENdum"- I need an issue for rukmani

> pirAtti. For this shiva's response was, ' Lo! here is the paramAtmA who has

> created the universe, all the jEvarAsigaL, dhevArgaL and so on and He is

> asking a boon from me and that too for a son.Is there such a deception and

> exclaims as "kaLvA! You have created me and the seven worlds in from YOu".

> Thus,by a quote from shiva the Lord's supremacy is being emphasised.

> Similarly, by vision the same is being explained in 2-8-6 of

> thiru-voi-mozhi.

> "thErthan vulagaLandha sEvadi mEal pOndhAmam sErthi, avaiyE sivan mudi mAlE

> thAn kaNdu, pArthan thelindhozhindha

> paizhnthuzhAzhAn perumai".

>

> When arjuna wanted to worship shivA( for obtaining pAsupadhAsthram), Lord

> Krishna offered his feet, and arjuna worshpped by offering flowers to Lord

> Krishna's feet. On his dream, arjunA saw shivA with the same flowers in his

> head and then arjunA realised the supremacy of the LOrd not by words from

> reliable sources, not by the verses from sruthi or smrithi but by vision -

> prathyaksham. "Apthar sollak kEtkai anRikkE, sruthi smrithigaLAl Adhal

> anRikkE,.thAnE kaNdAn AyiRRu" is the Edu vAkyam.

>

>

> dhivya prabhandham is a capsule where parathvam, kalyANa guNangaL, AzhwAr's

> Arthi, and so many aspects are dealt with. Parathvam is one of the important

> aspects which is a basic postulate. Though, we should not get bogged down in

> this aspect alone, we should always keep in mind that our philosophy is

> built on the premises on emberuman's unquestioned, unparallel supremacy.

> vAnamAmalai padmanabhan

>

>

>

> b. BY Vision -prathyaksham- 'thErthan vulgaLandha sEvadi mEl

>

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