Guest guest Posted November 28, 2002 Report Share Posted November 28, 2002 ArchAvatAram : With the recent discussions on Idol worship, I thought I’d write down what I have heard on the same. Source : - Discourse on Sri Ranga MAhAtmyam by Sri Krishna PrEmi Swmigal. Audio cassettes, cassette no. 2 and 3. While I am attempting to translate the relevant portions of Sanskrit verses in English, errors if any, are due to my ignorance. The discourse is in the following format – the Verse recited followed by the translation. For the sake of brevity, I am putting in the translation directly. I am unsure about what text these Sanskrit verses belong to. I would request our learned members to enlighten us on the same. My submission : The story goes like this… Once, the dEvAs, KinnarAs, yakshAs, gyAnIs etc. went to SatyalOka (Abode of BramhA) for Satsangam. BramhA posed a question to them on how each of them worshipped God. To this, they gave their respective methods of worship. NityasUrIs - Bramhaswaroopam in Vaikuntham GyAnis - SarvavyApa Vishnu in all roopams Yogis – Chith-roopam in Hridayam, Bhroomadhyam etc. Rishis - GAyathri Manthram in the middle of the Suryamandalam Devas - KshirAbdhi Shayana PerumAL As ordinary mortals do not have an access to the above forms of PerumAL easily, he thought that ‘perumAL’ should be accessible to all , even pApIs. A small comparison can be made with Water, it’s various forms and how it is accessed to put it to use. Forms of water & it’s access : a. Water which is the kAraNOdayam (root cause) for ulaga sristhi (creation of the world) b. AkAsh Gangai - Water in the clouds- Not accessible to us c. PAthALa Gangai - Water deep down - Should bore deep down for use(borewells). d. Rainy season - All can use it but for a limited period during the season. e. Water in dams, lakes etc. -Available easily even in peak and harsh summer (kadum kOdai). Similarly God is accessible - a. As Vaikuntha Pathi during Jagat Srishti. However, there is no direct access to mortals. b. In KshirAbdhi like the AkAsha Gangai for Devas. c. In the Hridayam (Heart)- Gyanis bore down and concentrate and achieve him like water from the PAtALa Gangai. d. As AvatAra PurushAs – available only during the specific period. Like the rain that showers everywhere without bias the AvathAra purushAs were available at that particular time and place irrespective of the worth of the being. e. BramhA found a gap here. Like Water available in kadum kOdai (peak summer) he wanted God to be available to all in kadum kali (Kaliyugam) easily . He wanted to bridge this gap. Bramha’s kripai for mortals led him to visit the KshirAbdhi SAyee. Bramha, along with the devas, kinnaras etc., requested Sriman NArAyanA to be available to everybody. At this point, the Lord said that he will come as 'ArchAvatAram' in the Vigraha Roopam. As all of them did not know what to expect, Bramha and others waited at the shores of the milky ocean (pArkadal). A bright light illuminated the place blinding their eyes and slowly they could see the Ranga VimAnam Kalasam rising from the Ocean. The PranavAkAram, Garudan in between, the Jaya –Vijaya DwarapAlakas, SEnapathi VishwaksEnar and Yagna VarAhar . The GAyathri Mandapam with 24 pillars signifying the 24 aksharams in the GAyatri matram. The 2 pillars in the garbhagraham signifying the Dwayam (Sharanagathi manthram). The 1000 headed AdisEshan was providing the light to PerumAL. The ratnams on each of AdisEshan’s heads shone and lit up PerumAL. Subsequently, the Utsava murthy, Sridevi, Bhoodevi also emerged. All of them watching this scene were overwhelmed and their outpour was in Gadyam (prose) form as stuti of PerumAL This is how the Archamurthi came to us-.so that we are fortunate enough to experience Him in this Kaliyugam in such a simple and easy manner. Ram Ram Ramanuja dasi Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2002 Report Share Posted December 1, 2002 Dear Members, Sri Krishna premi Anna's views cannot be paralled . All said and done, when you visit a temple, you get an exhilarating spiritual experience and peace of mind and enables you to forget your worries after placing it at the Lotus Feet of Perumal. In this modern age of fast pace life , to see God in fellow beings is almost an impossible attempt for a mundane mind. Through the beautiful Idols enshrined in temples, we are able to offer Archanai , and able carry the Bliss back home. Thanks V K Vijayarghavan - yamini suresh <yamini_suresh <bhakti-list> Thursday, November 28, 2002 12:01 PM Archavataram origin - Idol Worship .... > ArchAvatAram : > With the recent discussions on Idol worship, I thought > I'd write down what I have heard on the same. > > Source : - Discourse on Sri Ranga MAhAtmyam by Sri > Krishna PrEmi Swmigal. Audio cassettes, cassette no. > 2 and 3. > > While I am attempting to translate the relevant > portions of Sanskrit verses in English, errors if > any, are due to my ignorance. The discourse is in the > following format - the Verse recited followed by the > translation. For the sake of brevity, I am putting in > the translation directly. I am unsure about what text > these Sanskrit verses belong to. I would request our > learned members to enlighten us on the same. > > My submission : > The story goes like this. > Once, the dEvAs, KinnarAs, yakshAs, gyAnIs etc. went > to SatyalOka (Abode of BramhA) for Satsangam. > > BramhA posed a question to them on how each of them > worshipped God. To this, they gave their respective > methods of worship. > > NityasUrIs - Bramhaswaroopam in Vaikuntham > > GyAnis - SarvavyApa Vishnu in all roopams > > Yogis - Chith-roopam in Hridayam, Bhroomadhyam etc. > > Rishis - GAyathri Manthram in the middle of the > Suryamandalam > > Devas - KshirAbdhi Shayana PerumAL > > As ordinary mortals do not have an access to the above > forms of PerumAL easily, he thought that 'perumAL' > should be accessible to all , even pApIs. > > A small comparison can be made with Water, it's > various forms and how it is accessed to put it to use. > Forms of water & it's access : > > a. Water which is the kAraNOdayam (root cause) for > > ulaga sristhi (creation of the world) > b. AkAsh Gangai - Water in the clouds- Not > accessible to us > c. PAthALa Gangai - Water deep down - Should bore deep > > down for use(borewells). > > d. Rainy season - All can use it but for a limited > period during the season. > > e. Water in dams, lakes etc. -Available easily even in > > peak and harsh summer (kadum kOdai). > > Similarly God is accessible - > > a. As Vaikuntha Pathi during Jagat Srishti. However, > there is no direct access to mortals. > b. In KshirAbdhi like the AkAsha Gangai for Devas. > c. In the Hridayam (Heart)- Gyanis bore down and > concentrate and achieve him like water from the > PAtALa Gangai. > d. As AvatAra PurushAs - available only during the > specific period. Like the rain that showers > everywhere without bias the AvathAra purushAs were > available at that particular time and place > irrespective of the worth of the being. > > e. BramhA found a gap here. Like Water available in > kadum kOdai (peak summer) he wanted God to be > available to all in kadum kali (Kaliyugam) > easily . He wanted to bridge this gap. Bramha's > kripai for mortals led him to visit the > KshirAbdhi SAyee. > > Bramha, along with the devas, kinnaras etc., > requested Sriman NArAyanA to be available to > everybody. At this point, the Lord said that he will > come as 'ArchAvatAram' in the Vigraha Roopam. As all > of them did not know what to expect, Bramha and > others waited at the shores of the milky ocean > (pArkadal). > > A bright light illuminated the place blinding their > eyes and slowly they could see the Ranga VimAnam > Kalasam rising from the Ocean. The PranavAkAram, > Garudan in between, the Jaya -Vijaya DwarapAlakas, > SEnapathi VishwaksEnar and Yagna VarAhar . > > The GAyathri Mandapam with 24 pillars signifying the > 24 aksharams in the GAyatri matram. The 2 pillars in > the garbhagraham signifying the Dwayam (Sharanagathi > manthram). > > The 1000 headed AdisEshan was providing the light to > PerumAL. The ratnams on each of AdisEshan's heads > shone and lit up PerumAL. Subsequently, the Utsava > murthy, Sridevi, Bhoodevi also emerged. > > All of them watching this scene were overwhelmed and > their outpour was in Gadyam (prose) form as stuti of > PerumAL > > > This is how the Archamurthi came to us-.so that we are > fortunate enough to experience Him in this Kaliyugam > in such a simple and easy manner. > > Ram Ram > Ramanuja dasi > > > > > Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. > http://mailplus. > > > ----------------------------- > - SrImate rAmAnujAya namaH - > To Post a message, send it to: bhakti-list > Group Home: bhakti-list > Archives: http://ramanuja.org/sv/bhakti/archives/ > > > Your use of is subject to > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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