Guest guest Posted March 23, 2003 Report Share Posted March 23, 2003 dear bakthas kindly accept my humble obeisances.i have some questions (mainly borne out of curiosity) for which i expect answers from the knowledgable members of the group.the questions may look naive for most of them but as a fledgling i would like to know them. 1. where did the vigrahas of the lord in divya desams or for that matter any temple (ancient ones) originate from ?were they sculpted or was it by lord's leelas? 2. why is the lord separated from His consort in most of the temples..i mean why do we find a separate Thayar sannidhi? 3. what do we mean by Utsavar and Moolavar in the temples? regards satish Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2003 Report Share Posted March 24, 2003 Dear SrI Satish Kumar: >dear bakthas >1. where did the vigrahas of the lord in divya desams >or for that matter any temple (ancient ones) originate >from ?were they sculpted or was it by lord's leelas? THE MOORTHYS AT THE TEMPLE ARE CLASSIFIED AS SVAYAM VYAKTHAM (SELF-MANIFESTED) , AARSHAM (CONSECRATION DONE BY SAGES ) , MAANUSHAM (CREATED LOVINGLY BY HUMANS IN WOOD , STONE , METAL AND CONSECRATED WITH AAGAMA RIULES / PRAANA PRATHISHTAI). THE LORD ACCEPTS THE INVITATION OF THE HUMANS OR SAGES OR DEVAAS TO ENTER INTO THESE VIGRAHAMS TO ACCEPT THEIR WORSHIP. >2. why is the lord separated from His consort in most >of the temples..i mean why do we find a separate >Thayar sannidhi? THERE ARE NUMBER OF REASONS . BHAKTHI ARCHIVES HAVE POSTINGS ON THE SUBJECT OF WHY THERE IS (1)TANI SANNIDHI FOR OUR MOTHER (2) PRESENCE OF SRI DEVI AND BHU DEVI AT HIS SIDE AND (3)HER PRESENCE ON HIS CHEST OF OUR LORD AS NITHYA LAKSHMI. THE QUICK ANSWER IS THAT ONE SEEKS THE BLESSINGS AND INTERCESSION OF OF THE MOST MERCIFUL MOTHER BEFORE FACING THE WRATH OF THE LORD ,WHOSE INJUNCTIONS WE VIOLATE ALL THE TIME. IN ALL HER INFINITE COMPASSION FOR US , OUR MOTHER PLEADS WITH HER LORD TO FORGIVE HER ERRING CHILDREN AND PROTECTS US FROM HIS JUSTIFIED ANGER . >3. what do we mean by Utsavar and Moolavar in the >temples? UTHSAVAR IS THE PROCESSIONAL DEITY , WHO TRAVELS OUT OF THE TEMPLE TO SHOWER THE ANUGRAHAMS ON EVEN THOSE , WHO COULD NOT MAKE IT TO HIS SANNIDHI. MOOLAVAR NEVER LEAVES THE TEMPLE . IT IS LORD RANGANATHA WHO RESTS INSIDE THE RANGA VIMAANAM AT SRIRANGAM . UTHSAVAR IS KASTHURI RANGAN , WHO ENJOYS HIS UTHSAVAMS ALMOST EVERY DAY AND TRAVELS TO DIFFERENT SITES INSIDE AND OUTSIDE THE TEMPLE . V.SADAGOPAN >regards >satish > > > > Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! >http://platinum. > > >----------------------------- > - SrImate rAmAnujAya namaH - >To Post a message, send it to: bhakti-list >Group Home: bhakti-list >Archives: http://ramanuja.org/sv/bhakti/archives/ > > >Your use of is subject to > > > > ************************************************************** * Sent from Computer.Net Web Portal: http://web.computer.net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2003 Report Share Posted March 24, 2003 dear satish & all bakths fine and hope the same if your in india pls send a post card to this address and get a free book list of divya desam Narayanadimy 18,milladi street vaitheeswarankovil tamil nadu india dasan srini _____________________ Odomos - the only mosquito protection outside 4 walls - Click here to know more! http://r.rediff.com/r?http://clients.rediff.com/odomos/Odomos.htm&&odomos&&wn with best regards from balaji Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2003 Report Share Posted March 25, 2003 Respected Sir: Temples/Vigrahas : There are various reasons as to their origin: a. In some places, the Lord manifested out of his wish - this cannot be questioned further b. In some places the Lord manifested as a sport (Leela) to satisfy his devoutees c. In some places he manifested to teach a lesson, to punish someone, to reward someone d. In some places great kings who were great devoutees themselves built temples commissioning sculptures to do the work e. In some places people created out of devoution, love and bhakti f. In some place miracles took place and people or kings built temples out of gratitude The Sthala puranas in most cases will tell the story. However, some of these would also have been lost in antiquity. Regarding why Lord is separate from his consort. To answer this question, just think how do you refer to the Lord. Srinivasa...Sridhara etc. Even the entire sect is called Srivaisnava. The Sri is a prefix. The Sri lives in the most critical part of the Lord i.e. heart. Now Sri is the female principle, the Shakti. Without Sri, the Lord has no power. His power is derived from Her presence,. At one point of time, due to a tiff, Lakshmi abandoned HIM and went away. His entire life, work came to a standstill. He went deep into a depression. His base was shaken. ...Then after various gods, etc implored him to restore himself, he went in search of Lakshmi and so on the story goes...then in the end somewhere in Tirupati area the LORD gets into a anthill and a cow gives milk to the hungry LORD etc......some of you might be aware of this story..sorry if the details are sketchy. But bottomline is : without going to the Supreme Mother you cannot expect to proceed any other way...No one will give you audiance. That is why the Sandyavandanam ritual has the Gayathri (female aspect, mother of Vedas) as the central focal point. To the limited knowledge of the writer from whatever little he has gathered from various learned scholars, that which is special has to be given special treatment. Do you deign to sit and casually talk freely and take a cup of tea with the CEO of your company ? He has an airconditioned room, he has a car, a driver. He comes and goes as and when he likes. Remember he pays you and employes you. He is not involved in routines, smaller details. He talks only in terms of Budget, vision, mission statements etc. Why? because he is the CEO. His role is different. Nor can he mix with you nor can you. Each has a role - the ego factor is presumed is absent here, for we will not discuss this right now. So also, a temple is a special place. The Thayar is Thayar i.e. mother. Who is important ?The Vedas have clearly answered " Mata, Pita, Guru and Daivam". God is last. Om tat Sat Tat tvam Asi "D.Satish Kumar" <satkumard@ bhakti-list .com> cc: question 03/24/03 09:14 AM Please respond to bhakti-list dear bakthas kindly accept my humble obeisances.i have some questions (mainly borne out of curiosity) for which i expect answers from the knowledgable members of the group.the questions may look naive for most of them but as a fledgling i would like to know them. 1. where did the vigrahas of the lord in divya desams or for that matter any temple (ancient ones) originate from ?were they sculpted or was it by lord's leelas? 2. why is the lord separated from His consort in most of the temples..i mean why do we find a separate Thayar sannidhi? 3. what do we mean by Utsavar and Moolavar in the temples? regards satish Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum. ----------------------------- - SrImate rAmAnujAya namaH - To Post a message, send it to: bhakti-list Group Home: bhakti-list Archives: http://ramanuja.org/sv/bhakti/archives/ Your use of is subject to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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