Guest guest Posted October 19, 1998 Report Share Posted October 19, 1998 >Gummuluru Murthy <gmurthy > >Why does the ego not have existence in the present? My perception is: >it is the ego's thinking that there is a past and a future that sets up >the tri-kAlAs. Without that thinking, there are no tri-kAlAs, it (the >kAlA) is always in the ever-present mode. > >The only situation when ego is not present is in the deep sleep or in >the wake-up state at realization. Am I correct in that thinking? > >> [rest of the fine article deleted] > > >Regards >Gummuluru Murthy >------ Does Ego exist in the present? This is a very good question. To appreciate this in full implication, one has to understand what is ego? - Here are my thoughts. What is ego? If some one asks me who am I, the response I give to that question defines my ego. Most of the answer pertains to my past - I am so and so, born this and this place, to these parents, married to this person, father of this person, studied this and this, working at such and place, etc. Or the answer related to my future aspirations, expectations, fears and frustrations, goals and so on. Thus the answer pertains to my relations to the past up to this last fraction of the second or to the future first fraction of the next second and beyond. At present who am I? Other than a conscious existent entity that is present any answer pertains to past or future. At the present I can only answer as "I am" - any further addition is adjective qualifying the past or future. At Present there is no Time factor - since it requires two to define the time - past and present and present and future. The present is a dynamic present ( moving coordinate system always at the origin zero on the time scale!)- where there is only the presence of the conscious, existent entity. Interestingly all actions can only be done in the present and enjoyments can only be done in the present. But 'I am' only there in the present - not as this or that but just as I am. That is the reason why if one tries to go after this ego to find who this fellow is, he will disappear since he has no existence in the present. What is present is only "I am" without any qualifications. I am this and that may be statement one can make in the present. I am not even sure any more if this statement is even correct - since the statement is the reflection of the thought that is just gone. In fact, if one asks a question what is a thought - thought itself is a reflection of the past memory, which includes about my future aspirations and fears stored as past in my memory. Memory is loaded with not only the objective knowledge - chemistry, physics etc. which may not have any thing to do with me, but my subjective notions about the past, present and future. Identity with the subjective notions is the ego which is the false 'i'. When I know who really I am, my false notions about myself fall, but the objective knowlege - padaartha vijNaana - remains. What is ego - true answer cannot be given since it is not true. Hence all the rattling answer is given above! I give up! But before I really do, Here is what I remember from Bhagavan Shankara's definition of ego given in the VivekachuuDaamaNi -Please check the sloka if I have given correctly. nigadyatentahkaraNam manodhiiH, ahamkRiti chitta miti swavRittibhiH manastu sankalpa vikalpa naadhibhiH buddi padartha vyavasaaya dharmataH atraabhimaana ahamityahamkritiH swaarthanu sandhaana guneNa chittam|| Here he divides the antah karaNa (inner instrument) - into four aspects - manas, buddhi, ahankaar and chitta- all thought process, but classified into four based on the nature of the thoughts. oscillating thoughts - sankalpa and vikalpa - to do or not to do - is the mind. Determining or discriminating thoughts and the thoughts involving the knowledge of the padaartha - for example - chemistry etc. - are buddhi. ' atra abhimaana - aham iti - there (thoughts related to mind and intellect) possessiveness or longingness (includes durabhimaana), I like this and not that etc with the notion that aham iti - I am this - is the ahankaara or ego. Hence abhimaana includes the mamakaara - this is mine notion. Hence ego involves - I am this and this is mine- both notions. But 'this' refers is the memory of the thoughts of the mind and intellect. If I can truly identify with what exists in the present since that is that really counts then - that is the supreme ego! - aham Brahmaasmi! - When I have that BIG EGO - no more identification that ' i am only this and this' - I am the total without any exclusions. That EGO is eternal which is eternally present in the present. Hari Om! Sadananda K. Sadananda Code 6323 Naval Research Laboratory Washington D.C. 20375 Voice (202)767-2117 Fax:(202)767-2623 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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