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>Charles Wikner <WIKNER

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>On Mon, 19 Oct 1998 sadananda <sada wrote:

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>> If I can truly identify with what exists in the present since that is that

>> really counts then - that is the supreme ego! - aham Brahmaasmi! - When I

>> have that BIG EGO - no more identification that ' i am only this and this'

>> - I am the total without any exclusions. That EGO is eternal which is

>> eternally present in the present.

>

>You seem to stop short of the goal: that is certainly the limit of the

>ego, but Brahman is beyond that. Katha 1.3.13 gives:

>

> yacchedvaa"nmanasii praaj~nastadyacchejj~naana aatmani |

> j~naanamaatmani mahati niyacchettadyacchecchaanta aatmani ||

>

> The discriminating man should merge the (organ of) speech

> into the mind; he should merge that mind into the intelligent

> self; he should merge the intelligent self into the Great Soul,

> he should merge the Great Soul into the peaceful Self.

>

>Shankara's commentary explains the Great Soul is the First Born

>(HiraNyagarbha) which seems to be your "supreme ego", but goes on to

>explain the peaceful Self as the real Self which is within all and

>the witness of all the modification of the intellect.

>

>VidyAraNya's commentary on this verse, in jivan-mukti-viveka, gives:

>

> The Self is of three kinds: the knowing-Self, the great Self,

> and the tranquil Self.

>

> The Self present as an agent in the act of knowing, i.e. the

> egoism attributed as knower is meant here by the words "the

> knowing Self"; since the mind, which is the instrument of

> knowledge, is to be controlled, that is why it is being

> mentioned separately.

>

> Egoism is of two kinds: individual and universal. Thus "Here

> I am son of so and so" -- such manifests particular egoism.

> And "I am" -- only this much thinking belongs to the universal

> form of egoism. Since the universal variety exists in every

> individual, it is called great -- mahaan. The two selves are

> thus attributed to the two egoisms (respectively).

>

> Attributeless is the Tranquil Self. They all happen to be in

> an inner and outer relation. The innermost is the Tranquil

> Self which is pure knowledge, wherein exists, in the form of

> physical power, the unmanifest -- avyakta, primordial nature --

> muula-prak.rti, the cause. This manifests itself at first in

> the form of universal egoism and is called the great principle

> -- mahat-tattva (the intellectual principle). Outer to that it

> manifests in the form of individual egoism and again outer to

> this in the form of the mind and farther out to this in the

> form of the organs, such as speech etc.

>

>Regards, Charles.

 

 

Beautiful - you are absolutely right. In my statement I could not go

beyond - since beyond the universal ego there is no futher expression - as

Nanda pointed - just "be'. Reminded of the DakshaNamuurthy sloka - mouna

vyaakyaa prakaTita brahmanishTam .....

Hari OM!

Sadananda

 

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