Guest guest Posted November 3, 1998 Report Share Posted November 3, 1998 >Charles Wikner <WIKNER > > >On Mon, 19 Oct 1998 sadananda <sada wrote: > >> If I can truly identify with what exists in the present since that is that >> really counts then - that is the supreme ego! - aham Brahmaasmi! - When I >> have that BIG EGO - no more identification that ' i am only this and this' >> - I am the total without any exclusions. That EGO is eternal which is >> eternally present in the present. > >You seem to stop short of the goal: that is certainly the limit of the >ego, but Brahman is beyond that. Katha 1.3.13 gives: > > yacchedvaa"nmanasii praaj~nastadyacchejj~naana aatmani | > j~naanamaatmani mahati niyacchettadyacchecchaanta aatmani || > > The discriminating man should merge the (organ of) speech > into the mind; he should merge that mind into the intelligent > self; he should merge the intelligent self into the Great Soul, > he should merge the Great Soul into the peaceful Self. > >Shankara's commentary explains the Great Soul is the First Born >(HiraNyagarbha) which seems to be your "supreme ego", but goes on to >explain the peaceful Self as the real Self which is within all and >the witness of all the modification of the intellect. > >VidyAraNya's commentary on this verse, in jivan-mukti-viveka, gives: > > The Self is of three kinds: the knowing-Self, the great Self, > and the tranquil Self. > > The Self present as an agent in the act of knowing, i.e. the > egoism attributed as knower is meant here by the words "the > knowing Self"; since the mind, which is the instrument of > knowledge, is to be controlled, that is why it is being > mentioned separately. > > Egoism is of two kinds: individual and universal. Thus "Here > I am son of so and so" -- such manifests particular egoism. > And "I am" -- only this much thinking belongs to the universal > form of egoism. Since the universal variety exists in every > individual, it is called great -- mahaan. The two selves are > thus attributed to the two egoisms (respectively). > > Attributeless is the Tranquil Self. They all happen to be in > an inner and outer relation. The innermost is the Tranquil > Self which is pure knowledge, wherein exists, in the form of > physical power, the unmanifest -- avyakta, primordial nature -- > muula-prak.rti, the cause. This manifests itself at first in > the form of universal egoism and is called the great principle > -- mahat-tattva (the intellectual principle). Outer to that it > manifests in the form of individual egoism and again outer to > this in the form of the mind and farther out to this in the > form of the organs, such as speech etc. > >Regards, Charles. Beautiful - you are absolutely right. In my statement I could not go beyond - since beyond the universal ego there is no futher expression - as Nanda pointed - just "be'. Reminded of the DakshaNamuurthy sloka - mouna vyaakyaa prakaTita brahmanishTam ..... Hari OM! Sadananda K. Sadananda Code 6323 Naval Research Laboratory Washington D.C. 20375 Voice (202)767-2117 Fax:(202)767-2623 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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