Guest guest Posted December 7, 1998 Report Share Posted December 7, 1998 The discussion on tat and tvam is interesting and enlightening. I cannot resist the temptation of posting the following two-page matter entitled 'That art Thou' from my book: The Ten Commandments of Hinduism, published in '94. It does not contain anything new, I know. But it is supposed to be addressing itself to non-experts. I hope it is acceptable to the advaitin also. V. Krishnamurthy That art Thou: One of the famous Mahâ-vâkyas (Great Sayings) that occur in the Upanishads is the one that is meted out by Aaruni to Svetaketu in the Chândogya-Upanishad. It says, literally: That thou art. (Tat-tvam-asi). The Mahâ-vâkyas are the grand pronouncements of the Upanishads. For each of the four Vedas one such pronouncement is recognized as the Mahâ-vâkya of that Veda. Consciousness is Brahman (Rig Veda); I am Brahman (Yajur-Veda); That art Thou (Sâma Veda); This âtman is Brahman (Atharva Veda). Each one of these pronouncements can give rise to a prolonged debate as to what exactly they mean. The Masters of the different schools of philosophy take pains to write detailed commentaries to establish their point of view. In a book of this kind it is not feasible to get into that kind of dialectics. However, since we have been discussing the Advaita of Sankara in this chapter, we shall take one of these Mahâ-vâkyas, namely That Thou art, for a detailed explanation. according to Sankara. That Brahman which is the common Reality behind everything in the cosmos is the same as the essential Divinity, namely, the âtman within you. It is this identity which is the grand finale of the Upanishadic teaching. The Realization of this arises only by an intuitive experience. This is toally different from any objective experience. It cannot be inferred from some other bit of knowledge. Subtler than space Who is this Thou? It is the inherent substratum in each one of us without which our very existence is out of question. Certainly it is not the body or the mind or the senses or anything that we can call ours. It is the innermost Self. It is the âtman. On the other hand, the entity expressed by the word 'That'' is, by the notation used in the Vedas, Brahman, the transcendent Reality which is beyond every finite entity, concept or thought. You cannot give a full analogy to it and that is why the Vedas say words cannot describe it. It cannot even be imagined because when there is nothing else other than Brahman it has to be beyond space and time. We can imagine space without Earth, without water, without fire, and without air. But it is next to impossible to imagine something outside space. Space is the most subtle of the five elemental fundamentals. As we proceed from the grossest to the subtle, that is, from earth to water, water to fire, fire to air, and air to space the negation of each grosser matter is possible to be imagined within the framework of the more subtle one. But once we reach the fifth one, namely space or âkâsa, the negation of that and the conception of something beyond, where even the âkâsa is merged into something more subtle, is not for the finite mind. The Vedas therefore only declare the existence of this entity and call it 'sat' ( = existing entity). That and This The âtman or the innermost core of our self seems to have an individuality of its own. So in saying that it is the same as the unqualified Brahman in the Infinite Cosmos, we seem to be identifying two things, one that is unlimited and unconditioned and one that is limited and conditioned.. Whenever somebody says, for instance, that the person (call him B) whom you are meeting just now is the same as the one whom you saw (call him A) twenty years ago at such and such a place, what is actually meant is not the identity of the dresses of the two personalities of A and B, nor of the features ( those of B may be totally different from A), but of the essential person behind the names. So whenever such an identity is talked about we have to throw away certain aspects which are clearly distinctive in both and cling on to only those essentials without which they are not what they are. B and A may be engaged in distinct professions, B and A may be having different names, B and A may be having different attitudes towards you or towards a certain issue , B and A may be posing as different persons, by, say, showing off different passports, -- but still they are the same, is what is being asserted. So when Brahman and âtman are being identified in this statement, we have to see what commonalty or essentialness there is in them that is being identified. Brahman is the Cause of this Universe. But this is a predication of Brahman and so this is extraneous to the identity that we are talking about. The Self or the âtman, appears to be limited by an individuality which keeps it under the spell of ignorance; this is extraneous to the essentiality of the âtman. So what we are identifying is Brahman, minus its feature of being the cause of the Universe and âtman minus its limitations of ignorance-cum-delusion. That these two are the same is, in essence, the content of the statement: Tat tvam asi. The cosmic Mâyâ is what makes Brahman be the cause of this Universe. The individual Avidyâ (= ignorance) is what makes the âtman circumscribed and delimited. So the Mahâ-vâkya says that Brahman minus its Mâyâ and âtman minus its Avidyâ are identical. Goldness of the golden ring and woodness of the wooden elephant A simple illustration might help. There is a golden ring. But a golden ring has two aspects in it: one that says it is golden and the other that says it is a ring. If you want to see gold in it and show it to somebody and say this is gold it does not mean that gold is of ring-shape. Gold has nothing to do with shape. The shape is that of the ring and not of the gold. The 'goldness' of the ring is its essential characteristic. So from the golden ring one has to separate its 'ring-ness' and take only the quality of being golden, to recognize the gold in it. So also from the visible Universe which is nothing but the manifestation ( the effect ) of Brahman, we have to remove the visibility and concreteness of the universe and see behind it what is essential to it namely that of its being the Cause in essence. It is Brahman camouflaged by the various distractive appearances of what we call the Universe. To see Brahman we have to see through the Universe and beyond the Universe. A wooden elephant is nothing but wood if you are talking about the essence. If you are talking about the appearance, it is an elephant. Learn to see the wooden elephant as nothing but wood. Learn to recognise in the Universe the cosmic Brahman manifesting everywhere and at all times. One, One only, No second First one has to learn to say no to what is visible. For this, the indirect knowledge that we learn from the scriptures and from inference through observation help. That the âtman is different from our three states of awareness and also different from the five sheaths of personality, namely the physical, vital, mental, intellectual and bliss-filled personalities can be logically argued out by our intelligence. In fact logic can go a step further and establish that the Self is of the nature of Consciousness. The Vedas declare that Brahman is of the nature of Consciousness. That the two types of Consciousness may be the same can only be a conjecture as far as logical deduction is concerned. 'Ekam eva advitîyam Brahma ' is a famous statement from the Upanishads, systematically used by Sankara. There is only One Consciousness. Before we say that an entity is One, there are three obstacles. There could be within that One, several parts -- like the hands and feet of a human being or the branches and leaves of a tree. If this distinction is present we call it 'sva-gata-bheda' that is, distinction within itself. There is no such distinction within itself, in Brahman, says Sankara, because it is 'Ekam'. The second word 'eva' says that there is no distinction within the category. In other words there is no other entity within the same category as Brahman, that is, there is only one Brahman. If there is such a distinction, that is, in the same category if there are more than one -- such as two living beings, one a human being and the other an animal; or two different trees, one a mango tree and the other an apple tree --we call it 'sa-jâtîya-bheda' , a distinction within the category. The word 'eva' says that there is no such distinction; that is, there is nothing else equivalent to Brahman. Thirdly, there is no 'vi-jâtîya-bheda', no distinction between categories. For instance, there could be two distinct things, trees and mountains . There is no such category distinction, says the third word 'advitîyam'. Brahman has no second. There is nothing other than Brahman. It is One and One Only. Direct Perception The Vedas go from this to declare that the consciousness that is the âtman and the consciousness that is Brahman are the same. And the Master ( Guru ) confirms this. But this declaration either by the Vedas or the Guru is only an indirect knowledge ( paroksha-jnâna) for us. This indirect knowledge becomes a direct ( = aparoksha ) knowledge only when there is direct experience. That this individual Self is the same as the Supreme Self ( Aham Brahma asmi ) has to be only an experience , says the school of Sankara. He calls it 'aparoksha-anubhûti'. It is the experience of seeing the right thing, that is, Brahman, behind the negated universe and the negated individuality of the âtman. Here the scriptures can only show the way. It is direct perceptive knowledge. It is the experience of unity amidst the visible multiplicity. More than that. It is the highest spiritual truth not as a piece of knowledge or information but as it is. In fact it is not an experience, because an experience implies a transition from one stae to another state. It is the natural state. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2002 Report Share Posted January 29, 2002 Hello, My two cents: Tat is the real nature of the world, which is pure Existence. Tvam is the real nature of the self, which is pure Consciousness. Equating them both is the statement Tat Tvam Asi. Same is the case with Ahambrahmaasmi. Brahman is the real nature of the world, which is pure Existence. Aham is the real nature of the self, which is pure Consciousness. This describes Sat (Existence) nature and Chit (Consciousness) nature of Reality. The realization of the equality of them leads to the third nature - Ananda (Bliss). There is an interesting discussion in this line in "Advaita Bodha Deepika". You can get the book from Sri Ramanashramam (http://www.ramana-maharshi.org/). With love, Gomu. -- --------------- Email: gokulmuthu Webpage: http://www.geocities.com/gokulmuthu/ Phone: +91 80 6689904, 6689938, 6780026-9 +91 80 2384190-3 Ext. 227 +91 44 8140104 --------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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