Guest guest Posted December 18, 1998 Report Share Posted December 18, 1998 Gummuluru Murthy on 18th Dec. asked for an interpretation of verses 15 and 16 of IzopaniSad. I have attempted one below: The Golden Prayer The verses 15 and 16 of IzopaniSad translate as follows: The face of Reality is hidden by the golden container. Reveal it, O Sun, so that I may visualise the dharma of the Self as Truth. O Lord of Light, the only Seer, Controller of all, the Sun, Giver of Life to all, spread apart your rays, gather up your brilliance, so that I may perceive the wondrous Form of your being; For I myself am That. The Sun is the only visible representative of the Supreme Truth, Divine Light, brahman. There are only three locations in which one can visualise that brahman in this earthly world: One is the Sun, the second is the inside of the heart, the third is the space between the eyebrows. Incidentally, this last one gives the esoteric reason why Hinduism insists on a tilak or mark between the eyebrows. Of these three since the Sun itself can be visualised as brahman, the worship of brahman, the ultimate, through worship of the Sun is the easiest to practise. He is the One therefore who illuminates from within. Our limited consciousness has to open up to the infinite Consciousness represented by the Sun. The allegory of the golden container is full of meaning. The Sanskrit word 'pAtra' is derived from the definition: 'pIyate anena iti pAtram' - that by which we 'drink', i.e., experience. We experience the good and bad results of our past karma from this reservoir of our samskAra which brings forth our cycle of births and deaths. There are three seeds for this sprouting forth of our samskAras or vAsanas. The three are: Light (cit), Existence (sat) and Love (Ananda). They respectively activate, our Intelligence from its states of ignorance and inertness, our Life (i.e., birth and death) from its state of formless subtlety and our Mind through its states of Love and Hate. These activations express themselves in our wish to know, our wish to live, and our wish to enjoy - these three being in turn sustained by one's father through knowledge, one's mother through food, and one's spouse through pleasure and companionship. This then is the whole cycle of our samsAra. The resservoir for all this is the golden container representing the reservoir of all our vAsanAs. The Creator, brahmA through whom this blossoms in the world as Life is called hiraNya-garbha (= Golden Conception) in this charge of His. So the rays of the Sun which are golden in colour, and which constitute the blinding factor (the veil of ignorance) for not allowing us to see the Sun, the Reality, constitute, as it were, the golden container of our vAsanAs. The only Seer is hiraNya-garbha, who sees it all through. Our individuality, our names and forms, our inner organ of Mind with all its ramifications, its accessories in the form of sense organs - all these are created by this hiraNya-garbha, who gives the Light, to all of them. He is therefore the savitA, the Sun. So we ask Him, plead with Him and request Him to remove the blinding rays from himself, because the seeds of our samskAras are with Him, so that we can see Him as He really is. He is the one who can make us transcend our individuality and make us see the Oneness and realise that 'What I see is Myself; I am this Purusha' I am brahman - aham brahma asmi. V. Krishnamurthy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 1998 Report Share Posted December 21, 1998 Namaste. I am grateful to Professor Krishnamurthy for his interpretation of Isha upanishhad verses 15 and 16. That is the answer I was looking for (interpretation of the golden glow of the Sun) and I appreciate it very much. As we started a discussion of these verses (Isha upanishhad verses 15 - 18), let me put a few more thoughts on these noble verses. Firstly, the vedic thinkers have recognized the Sun as pratyaksha daivam, pushhan, the nourisher. If there is a God in the Universe, it is the Sun. The vedic prayer, gayatri mantra, also emphasizes this point. According to Vedic thinkers, Sun is the visible symbol of Brahman. But only as a symbol. This can be seen in Isha upanishhad, verse 15. The mumukshu says he/she wants to see, not the Sun, the symbol, but the true form of Brahman, the spiritual reality behind the Sun. The mumukshu says he/she wants to see the effulgence (kalyAna*tamam*) of the Brahman rather than the ordinary effulgence of the Sun (brighter than the thousand Suns, says bhagavadgita). Verse 16 also says "yo'sAvasau purushhah so'hamasmi" (The person who is in the Sun, I am He). Identity of Atman and Brahman is the basic point of advaita. It is the same spirit in the Sun, the pratyaksha daivam, as in the mumukshu. There may be a difference at the surface, but at depth, it is all identity. Isha upanishhad verses 15 and 16 ask us to see the identity behind the apparent differences at the surface. That is also the essence of the mahAvAkyAs tat tvam asi and aham brahmAsmi. My favourite upanishhads are Katha and Isha upanishhads. Isha upanishhad is unique in that different assemblage of verses address mumukshus at different levels of understanding Brahman. Verses 15 to 18 address a mumukshu who has lived a life of dharma all life and is full of morals, who has strived earnestly to seek Truth, but who has not yet realized the highest Truth. That is reflected, for example, in this mumukshu seeking Brahman in the Sun. "yo'sAvasau purushhah so'hamasmi" says that the mumukshu is well aware of the identity of Brahman and Atman. However, that knowledge seems to be not fully established in that mumukshu. If it were firmly established, there is no need to look for Brahman behind the effulgence of the Sun. Brahman can be visualized as the innermost Self of the mumukshu itself. Again, comments will be most appreciated so that I can clarify my own understanding. Regards Gummuluru Murthy ------ Yadaa sarve pramucyante kaamaa ye'sya hr^di shritaah atha martyo'mr^to bhavatyatra brahma samashnute Katha Upanishhad II.3.14 When all the desires that dwell in the heart fall away, then the mortal becomes immortal, and attains Brahman even here. ------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 1998 Report Share Posted December 21, 1998 Hi everybody, Aikya recently said that I ought to share my journey on list in spite of not knowing the language and teachings. I was also reminded that love's love and that's what matters. Usually, I just read these posts, but this one came this morning about the sun and late last night, I wrote a note to a person on another list where there is much arguing about paths to enlightenment. The note is in humour, yet it refers to a logo -- the sun. Hope you all laugh with me. Happy holiday. Tamra The post from G. Murthy: According to Vedic thinkers, Sun is the visible symbol of Brahman. But only as a symbol. This can be seen in Isha upanishhad, verse 15. The mumukshu says he/she wants to see, not the Sun, the symbol, but the true form of Brahman, the spiritual reality behind the Sun. The mumukshu says he/she wants to see the effulgence (kalyAna*tamam*) of the Brahman rather than the ordinary effulgence of the Sun (brighter than the thousand Suns, says bhagavadgita). Verse 16 also says "yo'sAvasau purushhah so'hamasmi" (The person who is in the Sun, I am He). Identity of Atman and Brahman is the basic point of advaita. It is the same spirit in the Sun, the pratyaksha daivam, as in the mumukshu. There may be a difference at the surface, but at depth, it is all identity. Isha upanishhad verses 15 and 16 ask us to see the identity behind the apparent differences at the surface. That is also the essence of the mahAvAkyAs tat tvam asi and aham brahmAsmi. Paths to enlightenment: Robert, All of us have different paths. I just want to share mine with your because I know that if I tell anyone else, WaWa mini-market will become the wealthiest church of the 21st century. You see, I think that religions start because some individual realizes something so profound that s/he really does want to share it. Then the foolish people, rather than hearing that the person is just telling it like it happened, think that that is the way it has to happen. Then they make a big religion out of it, getting all of the particulars right so that everybody can follow the leaders footsteps. Well, Robert, one night I went to WaWa and I can tell you about the journey and the music in the store and the light and everything. I can explain the logo of WaWa -- profoundly Taoist. WaWa will be, (if I ever tell and I won't), the Temple of the 21st century. Actually, they put the logo there on purpose to attract blind followers like me whose unconscious would be drawn, although quite unaware as to why. The enlightenment was not buying the vanilla when the mint chocolate chip was hidden in the rear. I always look deeper now that the truth has been revealed. Love and deep depths of realization and ice cream! Tamra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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