Subject - object relationship

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Namaste.

 

Shri Sadananda pointed out recently (thread: adhyAsa) the obvious truth

that the subject and object are one and the same. Keeping this truth *in

mind* does not take us anywhere. This truth has to be part of the

consciousness.

 

[in Shri LalitA trishatI stotra, there is this verse:

 

kevalam nAma-buddhiste nakAryA teshu kumbhajA

mantrAtmakatvameteshAm nAmnAm nAmAtmatApicA

 

HayagrIva is telling Agastya that getting the 300 names of Shri LalitA

into the mind is not going to serve any purpose. He exhorts Agastya to

get the names as part of the consciousness of Agastya. That is the

knowledge. Putting them in the mind, there is still a difference between

knower and the knowledge. That has to be transcended.]

 

If we come to the understanding that subject and object are one and the

same, and we accept that without any doubt and that this understanding

is part of us, then there is no question at all. I bow to such wisdom.

 

If that knowledge is still not part of us, then we can identify a

separate subject and a separate object and discuss the inter-relation

between them.

 

The subject-object duality is present in different forms in the states

of waking, dream and deep-sleep. In the waking state, the object is

manifested in material states. In the dream state, the object is

manifested in the form of mental states. In the state of deep-sleep,

the cognitive consciousness is in unmanifested seed form. The presence

of the object is inferred (not perceived), as its developments take

place on getting out of sleep. In the turIyA state, the objective

consciousness is completely transcended. There is neither the experience

of the subject nor the object in this fourth state.

 

What is the proof for the last sentence in the above paragraph? There is

no proof. It is self-validating. If one is searching for a proof, one

is still in ignorance.

 

Regards

Gummuluru Murthy

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