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Namaste.

 

This world was created in desire. (Sah akaamayat-Bahu syaam prajaayeya iti

).

 

Desire prompts action. One who eschews action cannot even sustain life

(Shareera yaatraa api BG Ch 3-8).

 

The ignorant engage in actions motivated by selfish desire ( Avidvaamsaah

sakthaah BG 3-25).

 

Ignorant lead a vegetative life (Asooryaa naama te lokaah ..Aatmahano

Janaah.- Eeshaavaasya Upanishat )

 

Occasionally, one in a thousand yearns for liberation-from desire , from

the miseries of dualities

( Manushyaanaam sahasreshu ...BG 7-3)

 

This person is a seeker of truth, the one who attempts to step beyond the

limitations ( Avidyayaa Mrtyum

Teertvaa Vidyayaa Amrutam Ashnute - Eeshaavaasya ).

 

His yearning is an earnest one. He is called a Mumukshu . If this person

also has the other three

qualifications viz., a discerning intellect, dispassion and the six fold

discipline Shat sampatti , he is on his way to "Self- Realization". (

Tattva bodha).

 

Now how does this person conduct himself in this world? i.e. What is his

Sva-Dharma ?

 

His vision is expanded. Because he is now guided by scriptural study and an

able teacher. His Ego-boundary now includes all beings ( Yah tu sarvaani

bhootaani aatmani sarva bhooteshu aatmaanam anupashyati - Eeshaavaasya ) .

( BG 6 29-31).

 

His actions now are driven by a new found awareness ( Udaara charitaanaam

tu vasudhaiva kutumbakam ).

 

One fine day , let us say his realization becomes 'Total'.

 

One would expect that he has no actions to perform ( Tasya kaaryam na

vidyate BG 3-17).

 

But he also continues to work "to keep the world together" ( Loka sangraha

artham BG 3 25 ).

 

That is why great teachers like Shankara have defined Dharma as follows:

Jagatah sthiti kaaranam praaninaaam saakshaat abhyudaya nih shreyasa hetuh

yah sah Dharmah.

 

A wise man -Jnaanee is capable of knowing what is good for this world (

Jnaaninaa charitum shakyam samyak raajyaadi loukikam - Vidyaaranya ).

 

Hence, others should follow a jnaani's lead and certainly "do good to this

world". It is only natural to follow the leader ( Yat yat aacharati

shreshtthah tat tat iva itaro janaah BG 3 21).

 

Pranaams

Vijayakumar

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> > > Namaste

> > >

> > > If I desire to attain moksha, then my sadhana can be considered evil

> or

> > > bad if accepted as stated above. ???

> > >

> > > Regards.

> > >

> > > Om Shanti

> > > Kathi

>

>The desire to attain moksha isn't a real desire, as moksha cannot

be

>attained. It is comparable to the desire to see for a blindfolded

man. If he

>removes the blindfold, he can see and the desire appears to have

been based

>on ignorance; if before removing the blindfold he bumps in to

obstacles and

>gets injured, this is due to his ignorance. Likewise, the desire

for moksha

>could propel one into foolish actions.

 

>Jan

 

 

Namaste

 

What I was trying to say was that every action has a motive. Just

like from the above example cited by Sri Jan-ji, the act of removing the

blindfold itself has a motive.

 

I have more doubts with the above statement by Sri Jan-ji which is:

"Likewise, the desire for moksha could propel one into foolish actions."

Then, what is mumukshutvam? Isn't it necessary for one in order to know

thyself. Please tell me.

 

Om Shanti

Kathi

 

 

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> K Kathirasan ADM NCS <kathirasan

>

>

> > > > Namaste

> > > >

> > > > If I desire to attain moksha, then my sadhana can be considered evil

> > or

> > > > bad if accepted as stated above. ???

> > > >

> > > > Regards.

> > > >

> > > > Om Shanti

> > > > Kathi

> >

> >The desire to attain moksha isn't a real desire, as moksha cannot

> be

> >attained. It is comparable to the desire to see for a blindfolded

> man. If he

> >removes the blindfold, he can see and the desire appears to have

> been based

> >on ignorance; if before removing the blindfold he bumps in to

> obstacles and

> >gets injured, this is due to his ignorance. Likewise, the desire

> for moksha

> >could propel one into foolish actions.

>

> >Jan

>

>

> Namaste

>

> What I was trying to say was that every action has a motive. Just

> like from the above example cited by Sri Jan-ji, the act of removing the

> blindfold itself has a motive.

 

It need not be so; the blindfold can be removed by a branch of a shrub when

the bearer comes near to it (without seeing the shrub).

>

> I have more doubts with the above statement by Sri Jan-ji which is:

> "Likewise, the desire for moksha could propel one into foolish actions."

> Then, what is mumukshutvam? Isn't it necessary for one in order to know

> thyself. Please tell me.

>

> Om Shanti

> Kathi

 

I agree with the dictum "know thyself"; one of the consequences of this

knowledge is to acknowledge the illusionary nature of desire without loosing

steadfastness of sadhana.

 

Jan

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