Guest guest Posted February 28, 1999 Report Share Posted February 28, 1999 Namaste. This world was created in desire. (Sah akaamayat-Bahu syaam prajaayeya iti ). Desire prompts action. One who eschews action cannot even sustain life (Shareera yaatraa api BG Ch 3-8). The ignorant engage in actions motivated by selfish desire ( Avidvaamsaah sakthaah BG 3-25). Ignorant lead a vegetative life (Asooryaa naama te lokaah ..Aatmahano Janaah.- Eeshaavaasya Upanishat ) Occasionally, one in a thousand yearns for liberation-from desire , from the miseries of dualities ( Manushyaanaam sahasreshu ...BG 7-3) This person is a seeker of truth, the one who attempts to step beyond the limitations ( Avidyayaa Mrtyum Teertvaa Vidyayaa Amrutam Ashnute - Eeshaavaasya ). His yearning is an earnest one. He is called a Mumukshu . If this person also has the other three qualifications viz., a discerning intellect, dispassion and the six fold discipline Shat sampatti , he is on his way to "Self- Realization". ( Tattva bodha). Now how does this person conduct himself in this world? i.e. What is his Sva-Dharma ? His vision is expanded. Because he is now guided by scriptural study and an able teacher. His Ego-boundary now includes all beings ( Yah tu sarvaani bhootaani aatmani sarva bhooteshu aatmaanam anupashyati - Eeshaavaasya ) . ( BG 6 29-31). His actions now are driven by a new found awareness ( Udaara charitaanaam tu vasudhaiva kutumbakam ). One fine day , let us say his realization becomes 'Total'. One would expect that he has no actions to perform ( Tasya kaaryam na vidyate BG 3-17). But he also continues to work "to keep the world together" ( Loka sangraha artham BG 3 25 ). That is why great teachers like Shankara have defined Dharma as follows: Jagatah sthiti kaaranam praaninaaam saakshaat abhyudaya nih shreyasa hetuh yah sah Dharmah. A wise man -Jnaanee is capable of knowing what is good for this world ( Jnaaninaa charitum shakyam samyak raajyaadi loukikam - Vidyaaranya ). Hence, others should follow a jnaani's lead and certainly "do good to this world". It is only natural to follow the leader ( Yat yat aacharati shreshtthah tat tat iva itaro janaah BG 3 21). Pranaams Vijayakumar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 1999 Report Share Posted February 28, 1999 > > > Namaste > > > > > > If I desire to attain moksha, then my sadhana can be considered evil > or > > > bad if accepted as stated above. ??? > > > > > > Regards. > > > > > > Om Shanti > > > Kathi > >The desire to attain moksha isn't a real desire, as moksha cannot be >attained. It is comparable to the desire to see for a blindfolded man. If he >removes the blindfold, he can see and the desire appears to have been based >on ignorance; if before removing the blindfold he bumps in to obstacles and >gets injured, this is due to his ignorance. Likewise, the desire for moksha >could propel one into foolish actions. >Jan Namaste What I was trying to say was that every action has a motive. Just like from the above example cited by Sri Jan-ji, the act of removing the blindfold itself has a motive. I have more doubts with the above statement by Sri Jan-ji which is: "Likewise, the desire for moksha could propel one into foolish actions." Then, what is mumukshutvam? Isn't it necessary for one in order to know thyself. Please tell me. Om Shanti Kathi > ------ > New hobbies? New curiosities? New enthusiasms? > > Sign up for a new email list today > ------ > Discussion of the True Meaning of Sankara's Advaita Vedanta Philosophy > focusing on non-duality between mind and matter. List Archives available > at: /viewarchive.cgi?listname=advaitin > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 1999 Report Share Posted March 1, 1999 > K Kathirasan ADM NCS <kathirasan > > > > > > Namaste > > > > > > > > If I desire to attain moksha, then my sadhana can be considered evil > > or > > > > bad if accepted as stated above. ??? > > > > > > > > Regards. > > > > > > > > Om Shanti > > > > Kathi > > > >The desire to attain moksha isn't a real desire, as moksha cannot > be > >attained. It is comparable to the desire to see for a blindfolded > man. If he > >removes the blindfold, he can see and the desire appears to have > been based > >on ignorance; if before removing the blindfold he bumps in to > obstacles and > >gets injured, this is due to his ignorance. Likewise, the desire > for moksha > >could propel one into foolish actions. > > >Jan > > > Namaste > > What I was trying to say was that every action has a motive. Just > like from the above example cited by Sri Jan-ji, the act of removing the > blindfold itself has a motive. It need not be so; the blindfold can be removed by a branch of a shrub when the bearer comes near to it (without seeing the shrub). > > I have more doubts with the above statement by Sri Jan-ji which is: > "Likewise, the desire for moksha could propel one into foolish actions." > Then, what is mumukshutvam? Isn't it necessary for one in order to know > thyself. Please tell me. > > Om Shanti > Kathi I agree with the dictum "know thyself"; one of the consequences of this knowledge is to acknowledge the illusionary nature of desire without loosing steadfastness of sadhana. Jan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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