Guest guest Posted March 27, 1999 Report Share Posted March 27, 1999 hariH OM! dear List members- the following letter may be of interest to you. it is the result of an inquiry by an inquisitive and philosophically astute-minded individual who was openly troubled with what was a genuine understanding/insight into vedanta on one hand yet an inability to reconcile it with what was going on around him in his world, on the other. he pushed me so far, and was so sincere with his quest for relief, that through me [out of compassion] came some, what i believe to be, very effective insights into the paradox of the human condition and how vedanta can assist in addressing it. **************** dear sir- from what i'm seeing, my assessment of your understanding [if i may say], is that you have indeed found the 'answerless answer' to our fundamental human dilemma, yet somehow seem to talk yourself out of it. what i have discovered is basically the ability to coexist alongside the mystery of Life, without further speculation or inquiry. it's a matter of the capacity to shut the door on the impossibly vast and endlessly creative machine of maya. this implies that all phenomena, including the [apparent] dynamics of suffering and bondage, are a very sophisticated product of this maya, which therein hypnotize and entangle us, quite automatically...*until* we investigate the matter. the result is, as i said, the ability to be at peace within the paradox of an imperfect world. i no longer have any questions nor do i desire to obtain solutions to problems like injustice, starvation, disease, etc, not only because time itself destroys everything anyway, but more importantly, because what is being destroyed isn't Reality, only the temporal/corporeal manifestations of It. in fact, it goes *far* beyond even this. the above technically only amounts to a dogmatic strategy, for the purpose of [haphazardly] appeasing the relentless intellect--which demands answers. for example, i can also say this: "act as though everything matters; be as though nothing does." yet this is also merely a 'dogmatic strategy' [albeit one that has a very practical application]. it goes actually to the place where the obsessive flame of the ego-Mind has been blown out. this latter is the best translation of nirvana. and it's really no more complicated than that. nevertheless, such primal simplicity is yet alien, and even repulsive to the human intellect, which operates on the more familiar ground of complexity and involvement-- intrinsic to the paradigm of the analytical Mind. i can only say that, sitting with the ego-Mind attenuated (either without thoughts or remaining unaffected by them), enables the execution of the experiment in pure Being, whereupon what follows defies description or commentary, either per itself (the experience) or per the matter of what is said to be its own projection into Life. and this has been my experience. although i'll occasionally lapse into the old habit of intellectual curiosity/bewilderment, until i investigate the situation, and find it to be naught but maya's incredible phantasm. thus, we are naturally the Self; only the Mind somehow convinces us otherwise. OM shaanthi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 1999 Report Share Posted April 11, 1999 Harsha: Thank you for sharing your letter Frank. It is articulate and the indication in it might be useful to some. I will take the liberty to forward it to two lists and will encourage people to carefully read through it. It has the touch of Ramana to it. f. maiello wrote: > "f. maiello" <egodust > > hariH OM! > dear List members- > > the following letter may be of interest to you. > it is the result of an inquiry by an inquisitive > and philosophically astute-minded individual > who was openly troubled with what was a genuine > understanding/insight into vedanta on one hand > yet an inability to reconcile it with what was > going on around him in his world, on the other. > he pushed me so far, and was so sincere with > his quest for relief, that through me [out of > compassion] came some, what i believe to be, > very effective insights into the paradox of > the human condition and how vedanta can assist > in addressing it. > > **************** > > dear sir- > > from what i'm seeing, my assessment of your > understanding [if i may say], is that you have > indeed found the 'answerless answer' to our > fundamental human dilemma, yet somehow seem to > talk yourself out of it. > > what i have discovered is basically the ability > to coexist alongside the mystery of Life, without > further speculation or inquiry. it's a matter of > the capacity to shut the door on the impossibly > vast and endlessly creative machine of maya. > this implies that all phenomena, including the > [apparent] dynamics of suffering and bondage, > are a very sophisticated product of this maya, > which therein hypnotize and entangle us, quite > automatically...*until* we investigate the matter. > the result is, as i said, the ability to be at > peace within the paradox of an imperfect world. > i no longer have any questions nor do i desire > to obtain solutions to problems like injustice, > starvation, disease, etc, not only because time > itself destroys everything anyway, but more > importantly, because what is being destroyed > isn't Reality, only the temporal/corporeal > manifestations of It. > > in fact, it goes *far* beyond even this. the above > technically only amounts to a dogmatic strategy, for > the purpose of [haphazardly] appeasing the relentless > intellect--which demands answers. for example, i can > also say this: "act as though everything matters; > be as though nothing does." yet this is also merely > a 'dogmatic strategy' [albeit one that has a very > practical application]. > > it goes actually to the place where the obsessive > flame of the ego-Mind has been blown out. this > latter is the best translation of nirvana. and it's > really no more complicated than that. nevertheless, > such primal simplicity is yet alien, and even repulsive > to the human intellect, which operates on the more > familiar ground of complexity and involvement-- > intrinsic to the paradigm of the analytical Mind. > > i can only say that, sitting with the ego-Mind > attenuated (either without thoughts or remaining > unaffected by them), enables the execution > of the experiment in pure Being, whereupon what > follows defies description or commentary, either > per itself (the experience) or per the matter of > what is said to be its own projection into Life. > and this has been my experience. although i'll > occasionally lapse into the old habit of > intellectual curiosity/bewilderment, until i > investigate the situation, and find it to be > naught but maya's incredible phantasm. > > thus, we are naturally the Self; only the Mind > somehow convinces us otherwise. > > OM shaanthi > > ------ > Did you know that we have over 85,000 e-mail communities at Onelist? > > Come visit our new web site and explore a new interest > ------ > Discussion of the True Meaning of Sankara's Advaita Vedanta Philosophy focusing on non-duality between mind and matter. List Archives available at: /viewarchive.cgi?listname=advaitin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 1999 Report Share Posted April 15, 1999 Harsha (Dr. Harsh K. Luthar) wrote: > > "Harsha (Dr. Harsh K. Luthar)" <hluthar > > Harsha: Thank you for sharing your letter Frank. It is articulate and the indication > in it might be useful to some. I will take the liberty to forward it to two lists and > will encourage people to carefully > read through it. It has the touch of Ramana to it. dhanyavada. by all means.... namaste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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