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>I meditate in the "corpse position," lying down on

>a hard, flat surface with arms and legs spread apart. This keeps the

> >spine straight and the head at the proper angle at all times.

 

Actually this is how I started out - meditating while going to sleep! And

when one's trying to fall back into oneSelf - this is indeed an advantageous

position. But the disadvantage is that, you would naturally fall asleep!

 

With practice, sitting with spine erect (which is very important), comes

naturally and is quite comfortable too.

 

BTW, I've never seen the corpse position recommended anywhere. Do any of the

ancient teachers recommend it?

 

 

 

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>From what I learned

 

Meditation is not an action - it is a noun - One has to do contemplation to

get into meditative state. If one tries to contemplate lying down one goes

to sleep quickly. In order to contemplate, the mind should remain sharp and

discriminative to reject what one is not- neti neti - It is gaining

knowledge of the object of contemplation. My hats of to anyone who can

contemple seriously on any subject with goal to learn by lying down flat on

the back. For any serious discussions- people say - Let us sit down and

discuss.

 

Hence the recommended pose that is convenient, based on univesal experience

of sages is to sit down with maximum base keeping the vertibral column

straight and the neck in line. One should loose the awareness of the body

yet one should not go to sleep and once mind should remain sharp. Krishna

gives in Ch.6 the technique of meditation. Everything else is just a

modification of that.

 

Hari Om!

Sadananda

>"nanda chandran" <vpcnk

>advaitin

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> Meditation Posture

>Sat, 22 May 1999 02:46:57 PDT

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>"nanda chandran" <vpcnk

>

>>I meditate in the "corpse position," lying down on

>>a hard, flat surface with arms and legs spread apart. This keeps the

>> >spine straight and the head at the proper angle at all times.

>

>Actually this is how I started out - meditating while going to sleep! And

>when one's trying to fall back into oneSelf - this is indeed an

>advantageous

>position. But the disadvantage is that, you would naturally fall asleep!

>

>With practice, sitting with spine erect (which is very important), comes

>naturally and is quite comfortable too.

>

>BTW, I've never seen the corpse position recommended anywhere. Do any of

>the

>ancient teachers recommend it?

>

>

>

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>Meditation is not charm school... I think that the lack of a meditator in

>meditation is far more important than posture, in the long run.

>

>Hari OM,

>

>Tim

 

Beautifully said.

I do agree if sitting is a problem then that is not the solution and one has

to find a suitable position that suites the individual.

 

Hari OM!

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At 02:46 AM 5/22/99 PDT, you wrote:

>"nanda chandran" <vpcnk

>

>>I meditate in the "corpse position," lying down on

>>a hard, flat surface with arms and legs spread apart. This keeps the

>> >spine straight and the head at the proper angle at all times.

>

>Actually this is how I started out - meditating while going to sleep! And

>when one's trying to fall back into oneSelf - this is indeed an advantageous

>position. But the disadvantage is that, you would naturally fall asleep!

>

>With practice, sitting with spine erect (which is very important), comes

>naturally and is quite comfortable too.

 

I have a slight case of scoliosis (curved spine) and inherited very poor

posture from my parents. I find sitting completely erect to be almost

impossible for any length of time, it's too much of a strain. Also, I

don't see the need when the corpse position "works well for me."

 

I don't know about the ancient scriptures, but I've seen modern texts that

accept the corpse position as legitimate. And from my own experience,

meditation is quite possible in this position. Once again, the only

detriment is that it's quite a bit easier to fall asleep in this position,

but that difficulty can be overcome through practice.

 

Meditation is not charm school... I think that the lack of a meditator in

meditation is far more important than posture, in the long run.

 

Hari OM,

 

Tim

 

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> >"nanda chandran" <vpcnk

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> >>I meditate in the "corpse position," lying down on

> >>a hard, flat surface with arms and legs spread apart. This keeps the

> >> >spine straight and the head at the proper angle at all times.

> >

[Madhava Replies:]

 

Hari Om!

 

Meditating in the "corpse position" is also called as "SavAsana".

But it is very difficult to continue in this position quite long. I came to

know that you can't lie down in this kind of posture for more than 20

minutes. It seems one tends to move. I also heard some where that, during

the sleep, human body moves 150 times (just to adjust!)...

 

In the book "Autobiography of a yogi", Shri ParamahaMsa yOgananda

mentions about a yogi who mediates using this posture. Also Sri Ramana

Maharshi is said to have started his quest using this posture!

 

It is not advised to use this posture for beginners to do

meditation, not only because one tends to fall asleep, but also because this

can not create the cycle of praNas that keep a kind of circle in the body.

 

If at all one is interested in this posture, here is a suggestion

that I heard from a Buddhist monk (this technique, it seems, is taught to

the kungfu fighters in order to get strength in a quick second, after they

underwent a pretty long combat):

 

1) Lie down on a cot that is placed exactly in the middle of the

room.

2) Take deep breath, as much as you can. And keep it there for some

time.

3) Lift your hands and legs and get them near to your stomach, (like

a baby in the womb)

3) Imagine a fish that is out of the water. It struggles for it's

life and finally it dies with a big jerk. You need to remember the last

jerk of the fish... Same way release your breath with full force.... while

releasing let fall your hands and legs on the cot.

4) Stay still, let your thoughts flow...You will realize that energy

keeps flowing into your mind. Smile at yourself. Stay cool...

 

-Madhava

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[Madhava Replies:]

 

Hari Om!

 

Meditating in the "corpse position" is also called as "SavAsana".

But it is very difficult to continue in this position quite long. I came to

know that you can't lie down in this kind of posture for more than 20

minutes. It seems one tends to move. I also heard some where that, during

the sleep, human body moves 150 times (just to adjust!)...

 

In the book "Autobiography of a yogi", Shri ParamahaMsa yOgananda

mentions about a yogi who mediates using this posture. Also Sri Ramana

Maharshi is said to have started his quest using this posture!

 

It is not advised to use this posture for beginners to do

meditation, not only because one tends to fall asleep, but also because this

can not create the cycle of praNas that keep a kind of circle in the body.

 

If at all one is interested in this posture, here is a suggestion

that I heard from a Buddhist monk (this technique, it seems, is taught to

the kungfu fighters in order to get strength in a quick second, after they

underwent a pretty long combat):

 

1) Lie down on a cot that is placed exactly in the middle of the

room.

2) Take deep breath, as much as you can. And keep it there for some

time.

3) Lift your hands and legs and get them near to your stomach, (like

a baby in the womb)

3) Imagine a fish that is out of the water. It struggles for it's

life and finally it dies with a big jerk. You need to remember the last

jerk of the fish... Same way release your breath with full force.... while

releasing let fall your hands and legs on the cot.

4) Stay still, let your thoughts flow...You will realize that energy

keeps flowing into your mind. Smile at yourself. Stay cool...

 

-Madhava

 

 

Harsha: Thank you Madhavaji for sharing. May I respectfully add two things.

 

1. Consciousness has no posture. Techniques and methods and postures

naturally will differ from person to person based on their samskaras,

temperament, background, physical limitations, etc. On the Jnana path, the

focus is on awareness only and the body is left to find the proper posture

according to its tendencies.

 

2. It is not advisable to hold the breath forcefully under any circumstances

unless one is familiar with the methods of pranayama. Even then, much

caution is needed. Guidance is crucial for advanced exercises involving

Bhastrika, Bandha Traya, etc. On the Jnana path, understanding is emphasized

and methods (such as those involving breath retention) are given importance

only to the extent that they serve to quiet the mind rendering it suitable

for inquiry.

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> Harsha (Dr. Harsh K. Luthar) [sMTP:hluthar]

> Thursday, May 27, 1999 12:37 AM

> advaitin

> Re: Meditation Posture

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> "Harsha (Dr. Harsh K. Luthar)" <hluthar

>

> 2. It is not advisable to hold the breath forcefully under any

> circumstances

> unless one is familiar with the methods of pranayama. Even then, much

> caution is needed. Guidance is crucial for advanced exercises involving

> Bhastrika, Bandha Traya, etc. On the Jnana path, understanding is

> emphasized

> and methods (such as those involving breath retention) are given

> importance

> only to the extent that they serve to quiet the mind rendering it suitable

> for inquiry.

[Madhava Replies:]

 

OOPS! I am terribly sorry. Actually, it was quite a few days back,

I typed that "Meditation Posture" message from home. And then decided

against posting it, becuase I thought in the same way that Dr. Harsha

did.... IT IS VERY MUCH NECESSARY TO HAVE A RIGHT TEACHER WHILE DOING ALL

THIS.

 

I didn't want to post that message. I remember deleting it.

Anyway, I am very sorry for the mistake. Thank you very much for your advice

Dr. Harsha, I fully agree with you. My sincere apologies once again.

 

Best Regards,

Madhava

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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