Guest guest Posted June 5, 1999 Report Share Posted June 5, 1999 Talking of various kinds of Gita. I have found the Astavakra very useful. This was the text Swami Vivekananda was asked to read aloud by Sri Ramakrishna it has some very focused ideas on spirituality. Let us examine:- In first sloka King Janaka asks Sage Astavakra (1) How can knowledge be acquired? ( 'How do we know what all this is all about?') (2) How can liberation be attained? ('How do we gain freedom from our limitations?) (3) How is renunciation possible? ('How can we stop chasing after things ?') All three are very interesting questions. In reply Sage Astavakra says:- If you aspire liberation my child, shun the objects of the senses - then he adds 'You are neither earth, nor water, nor fire, nor air, nor space. In order to attain liberation know the Self as the witness of all these and as Consciousness itself.' The idea of liberation or freedom from limitations is one of the key approaches to spirituality. This idea of gaining liberation from limitations may sound like some old religious rhetoric but covers far wider issues which are relevant today. At the moment science is studying the concept of 'Consciousness'. It is trying to reduce consciousness as something that is generated by neuronic activity through chemical and electrical processes in the brain. I suggest that the thing that distinguishes a real conscious being from an elaborate computer network (AI -Artificial intelligence) is this concept of 'looking to overcome limitations. Searching for freedom from all limitations'. If you build in this searching for liberation into a software programme of an AI robot - I think it would cause severe contradiction and failure in it's operation. Liberation is a serious concept which science has yet to tap into. Again this idea of gaining liberation is seen in evolution too. A single cell continues to replicate --- continues to evolve into more and more complex being in a direction which gives it more freedom. A fish will try and evolve wings...as it wants to overcome the limitation of staying in water etc. What gives this process of evolution a direction? Why does evolution from time to time not slip into reverse and complex beings become less complex beings? This is a question we have to ask the scientists -- they may not find many examples. What gives these replicators a push in one direction only? The answer may be in this idea of 'search for liberation (looking to overcome limitations) -- Which is the speciality of conscious beings. jay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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