Guest guest Posted July 13, 1999 Report Share Posted July 13, 1999 Dear Barry, Thank you for your kind message. I am forwarding your message to the list. I would request you to address any question you may have to Jay (List owner) at "vivekananda", in future. This way you can address the whole list. I would also like to mention that I am in no way an authority on Scriptures. I am just another student of philosophy. I believe that I still have a long way to go. Fortunately, there are great scholars available on these lists and I keep learning a lot from them. I am sure they can respond to your questions in an authentic way. You won't be disappointed. All the best. Kind Regards, Madhava > > Barry Pittard [sMTP:bpittard] > Tuesday, July 13, 1999 7:53 AM > Madhava K. Turumella > Re: Saptarishi > > This is most kind of you all. Thank you very much. > > I would really like to challenge the creativity of your group. The > questions I would like to put most squarely are very simply these: > > 1. What do the sources (in different periods) relate about these sages? > (You have given some interesting > leads). > 2. Who were the "real" authors of the different nadisastra traditions, > and > when did they live? > 3. Did some authors choose the names of certain Vedic Rishis as > author-pseudonyms, and why? > > I'm not sure whether the most satisfying answers to these questions lie > nicely compacted in the references on Jay's and Madhava's bookshelves. On > the other hand, members of your group may have some good contacts round > the > world either personally or else as scholarly references. For example, do > any of you have family/friends/acquaintances/colleagues who have explored > nadisastra in any way. It is interesting just how many of my Indian > friends, etc., have done. Of course, I'm running out of friends and have > to > ask ever more widely! > > If you should be curious why such questions occupy me by night and day, I > shall be glad to inform you. In the meantime, I am very grateful for > making > your acquaintance. > > Barry > > - > Madhava K. Turumella <madhava > Vivekananda Centre <vivekananda; > <bpittard > Monday, June 28, 1999 1:04 AM > RE: Saptarishi > > > > > > > ----Original Message----- > > > Vivekananda Centre [sMTP:vivekananda] > > > Friday, June 25, 1999 5:38 PM > > > Madhava K. Turumella > > > Saptarishi > > > > > > Hi Madhava > > > > > > I would like to send some form of reply to Barry about Saptarishi > > > Can you do something for me? > > > > > > This is the last message I had from him. I have some puranic books in > the > > > house but I do not know exactly where the reference may be. Try and > give > > > Barry some kind of guidance or atleast an idea which books and > portions > he > > > should refer to ! > > > > > > regards > > > jay > > > =================copy of correspondence=========== > > > Dear Jay, > > > > > > Thank you, indeed. I am most grateful and shall look eagerly forward > to > > > replies >from some of the scholars in (your) group.< > > > > > > Barry Pittard > > > - > > > Vivekananda Centre > > > Barry Pittard > > > Monday, June 21, 1999 5:05 PM > > > Re: Saptarsi > > > > > > > > > We will revert soon with replies from some of the scholars in our > group. > > > jay > > > Vivekananda Centre London > > > > > > > > > Barry Pittard <bpittard > > > hindu <hindu > > > 21 June 1999 05:16 > > > Saptarsi > > > > > > > > > In an area where I find paucity, I'm looking for any quality studies > that > > > get as close as possible to who and what certain ancient Indian sages > > > actually were or well might have been. > > > > > > For my study on nadisastra of different traditions, in different parts > of > > > India, I require as much information as I can get on the Sapta Rishis > - > > > the > > > seven Rishis of Vedic times, sometimes called Saptarsi - Gautama, > > [Madhava Replies:] > > > > Dear Barry, > > > > Greetings! > > > > Jay has requested me to help you in this regard. Since you are > > looking at in depth information, I am going to refer books where you > can, > > for sure, find information. > > > > gautama = In Vishnu Purana, gautama curses the other sages. They > > become demons because of his curse. Lord Vishnu saves them with the help > of > > Siva. At this context you can find full information about Gautama, > there > is > > a reference to the naDiSastra here. There are 6 Gautamas (sages with > same > > name) mentioned in our puranas. But the one in Vishnupurana is the > Vedic > > seer. > > > > > Bharadwaja, Vishwamitra, Jamadagni, Vasishta, Kasyapa, Atri; who also, > in > > > Astronomy, correspond to the constellation Ursa Major, commonly known > as > > > the > > > Big Dipper. > > > > > [Madhava Replies:] > > All the above are mentioned in PadmaPurana. About, Vishvamitra and > > Vasista please refer "Srimad Ramayana i.e. vAlmiki ramayana, > bAlakanda). > > > > > > > Other sages about whom I am always striving to get more decent FACTUAL > > > information about are: > > > > > > Bhrighu, > > [Madhava Replies:] > > Vishnupurana > > > > > Shuka, > > [Madhava Replies:] > > Mahabhagawatam > > > > > Shukra, > > [Madhava Replies:] > > Vamanapurana > > > > > Druva, > > [Madhava Replies:] > > Vishnupurana > > > > > Amsa, Agasthya, > > [Madhava Replies:] > > Sivapurana > > > > > Kousika, Koumara, > > [Madhava Replies:] > > PadmaPurana > > > > > Kakbhusandi, Bhoga, Pullipani, > > [Madhava Replies:] > > I don't think... Bhoga and Pullipani are not vedic seers, as per my > > understanding. Please let me know where you came across these names. > > > > > Vashista, Vishwamitra, Parasara, Sahadeva > > > > > > Can you or other colleagues suggest? > > > > > > Barry Pittard > > [Madhava Replies:] > > > > There is a book published by Penguin regarding Indian Sages. I do > > not have any of the above puranic books at hand. Hence, referring from > > memory. Also, all these puranas (in English) will have indexes, so I > am > > presuming that you will not find it difficult in finding the cantos. > > > > Please do not hesitate to contact me or jay in case you need any > > more reference. > > > > Best Regards, > > Madhava > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 1999 Report Share Posted July 13, 1999 At 10:40 AM 7/13/99 +0300, you wrote: >"Madhava K. Turumella" <madhava <snip> >I would also like to mention that I am in no way an authority on Scriptures. >I am just another student of philosophy. I believe that I still have a long >way to go. Fortunately, there are great scholars available on these lists >and I keep learning a lot from them. The greatest scholars of all are those who have learned from personal experience, from living the teachings, not those who are students of the scriptures. To those who have truly learned from experience, I bow deeply with respect. Hari OM, Tim ----- Visit The Core of the WWW at: http://www.eskimo.com/~fewtch/ND/index.html Music, Poetry, Writings on Nondual Spiritual Topics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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