Guest guest Posted July 21, 1999 Report Share Posted July 21, 1999 Dear Greg & all, > > This is nice. Not having either belief (existence OR non-existence) is > best, ?no? > Well... my first reaction is total agreement even though " life without belief " is philisophical scepticism which sounds a little irreligious but really isn't the denial of truth as much as a denial of human concepts about it. [ see below .... ] > > >I don't think whatever is logical is therefore true. > > What is true? The normal philsophical definition is that a true statement > is one whose meaning corresponds with a state of affairs in the outside > world. But with the non-dual notion of objects not being separate from > consciousness, there is really no outside world. So in what sense is > something true? We could say, there is nothing but Truth... > Truth for me, is "what is the case" and the term "true" refers to a judgement about statements, propositions, beliefs, etc. Your statement "objects not being separate from consciousness" would be "true" if it corresponded to what is the case. Are you suggesting non-duality in and of itself makes it impossible to evaluate statements as being true or false? > Neither is more likely. They are models for the seeker, and the seeker > adopts whichever one that resonates better. The purpose of any model is > sublation, to free the seeker from a more conceptually involved model, a > model that requires more belief. You know, like the drishti-shrishti, the > shrishti-drishti, and the ajata-vada models of creation in adviata vedanta. > Then the sublating model itself is eventually sublated, etc., until the > belief in the last model falls away. > ahh... here we are getting *real* close to "pay dirt" as far as I'm concerned. When the blessed moment occurs in which "the last model falls away" there is silence, period, full stop. What is then the case (independent of ideas about it) simply cannot be conceptualized or put into words. and about what we cannot speak must we not remain silent? Aren't "Brahman", "Suchness", etc. just synonyms for the inconceivable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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