Guest guest Posted August 2, 1999 Report Share Posted August 2, 1999 Dear a c You have written: <Still, I wouldn't say things the way some people do... If Sankara "woke up" out of a dream how could he still talk to us inside the dream in a meaningful way? If he was still able to talk to us inside the dream how could he be outside it? > This is the great difference between a Guru and ordinary mortals. An ideal Guru is one who is a jIvan-mukta who can easily shuffle himself between the state of samAdhi or enlightened state where there is nothing but brahman and the phenomenal state of acting in this mundane world. Ordinarily in our world experience we never realise that we are dreaming until we wake up; or, until our dreams are shaken up. Nobody tells us in our dream that we are dreaming. But that is exactly what is happening when a Sankara or a Ramana talks to us. They appear in our dream - namely our mundane world, which we do not realise is a dream from the absolute point of view - and tell us: 'Wake up, you fellows, brahma satyam jagan-mithyA, you are now dreaming!' . Since for them, the passage from this dream-mundane-world to the Absolute-wakefulness of Brahman consciousness and back, is an ordinary affair, that can be taken at their will, they are able to appear just like one of us in our world and tell us it is a dream. Here what we have to admire is the fact that they don't gain anything by waking us up. Because they have nothing to gain or lose. (nAnavAptam - avaptavyaM). But that is the point about brahman consciousness. When they condescend to descend to our level and wake us up it is because of the compassion they have for us. This compassion is nothing but the fullness of Ananda. We should be thankful to them for trying (!) to wake us up repeatedly. PraNAms to all advaitins Prof.VK === Prof. V. Krishnamurthy You are invited to visit my latest book entitled GEMS FROM THE OCEAN OF HINDU THOUGHT VISION AND PRACTICE at http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Rhodes/2952/gohitvip/contents.html ___________ Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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