Guest guest Posted August 10, 1999 Report Share Posted August 10, 1999 Ac I suggest you read Shankara Bhaasya to answer all your questions on advaita. This is not the forum for propagation of vishishTaadvatia or dwaita. If your heart is in vishshTaadvaita then there is separate list serve run by Shree Varadarajan where you can quench your hearful. The charama sloka that you have quated has been exhaustively dealt by both Shankara and post shankara. There is Bhagavad Geeta commentary by swami Chinmayananda if you want to study. Shree Ram Chandran can give you place you can get that information. I have give you the Bhagavad geeta slokas from the sixth chapter and provided the meanning what I discussed. Now you want me provide other slokas that dealt with Bhakti aspect. I donot have to prove adviata for you. It has been examined and reexamined for the past few centurines. There have been criricisms and couter criticisms on advaita, vishishTaadviata and dwaita. The points you have raised and together many others have been done my Shree Vedanta Deshika in his Shata Dhuushani and has been answered by Achaarya Chachuka and Madhusudana etc. There are volumes of these and you can quench your thrust if you are really interested. If you want to prove that advaita is worng, you are on a worng list serve. If you are really interested read the article I worte in this list serve couple of months ago on the Adaviata by shankara Bhagawatpaada. Then you will see the logic of advaita and scriptural pramaaNa for that. Hari Om! Sadananda >a c <ac >advaitin >advaitin > Advaita interpretation of sruti [was: Bhagavad Gita >quote?] >Tue, 10 Aug 1999 14:13:16 -0700 > >a c <ac > >Dear Sadananda, > > > >My quotations and discussion closely follow advaitic interpretation. > > > >I was wondering what the Advaita interpretation is of Bhagavad Gita ch. 18 >v.65 & 66 -- > > "Fix your heart on Me, give your love to Me, worship Me, bow down before >Me; so shall you come to Me. This is my pledge to you, for you are dear to >Me. Abandon all dharmas and come to Me alone for shelter. I will deliver >you from all sins; do not grieve." > >Seems simpler to assume Krshna is God and we are the ones who can unite >with Him by surrendering ourselves to Him. If we knew the past, present, >and future of all beings as Krshna does then perhaps it would make better >sense of the Gita to "read it from the perspective of Krshna" -- until >then, I think not. > >I'm told there are also many references in the Upanishads which imply a >profound (if subtle) distinction between the individual soul and God (as >well as their inseparability). Advaita has been criticized by some >authors for pre-judging one type of sruti (ie. passages indicating a >difference between God and the individual soul) to be only provisional >truth for beginners or children. Any truth to that accusation? If so, >wouldn't it be "question begging" on a grand scale to prejudge and redefine >your scriptural proofs in order to authorize that very prejudging and >redefining? > >-- does Advaita take a "two truths" approach to sruti with regard to >statements which imply a distinction between God and the individual soul? > >thanks to any who might help clarify this for me... > >-A. > > >--------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- > >ONElist: home to the world's liveliest email communities. > >------ >Discussion of the True Meaning of Sankara's Advaita Vedanta Philosophy >focusing on non-duality between mind and matter. List Archives available >at: /viewarchive.cgi?listname=advaitin > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 1999 Report Share Posted August 10, 1999 Dear Sadananda, > >My quotations and discussion closely follow advaitic interpretation. > I was wondering what the Advaita interpretation is of Bhagavad Gita ch. 18 v.65 & 66 -- "Fix your heart on Me, give your love to Me, worship Me, bow down before Me; so shall you come to Me. This is my pledge to you, for you are dear to Me. Abandon all dharmas and come to Me alone for shelter. I will deliver you from all sins; do not grieve." Seems simpler to assume Krshna is God and we are the ones who can unite with Him by surrendering ourselves to Him. If we knew the past, present, and future of all beings as Krshna does then perhaps it would make better sense of the Gita to "read it from the perspective of Krshna" -- until then, I think not. I'm told there are also many references in the Upanishads which imply a profound (if subtle) distinction between the individual soul and God (as well as their inseparability). Advaita has been criticized by some authors for pre-judging one type of sruti (ie. passages indicating a difference between God and the individual soul) to be only provisional truth for beginners or children. Any truth to that accusation? If so, wouldn't it be "question begging" on a grand scale to prejudge and redefine your scriptural proofs in order to authorize that very prejudging and redefining? -- does Advaita take a "two truths" approach to sruti with regard to statements which imply a distinction between God and the individual soul? thanks to any who might help clarify this for me... -A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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