Guest guest Posted September 25, 1999 Report Share Posted September 25, 1999 On 9/25/99 at 8:33 AM Vivekananda Centre wrote: > >Posting this from Ramakrishna List > >>From Sue:- > >(translator - Swami Chetanananda) > >It is God's grace alone which gives wise men the desire to realize nondual >Brahman; thus they are set free from great fear. > >(comments) > >Desire - It is true that mere desire to realize Brahman cannot save men from >great fear, but the author has taken it for granted that the aspirant is >qualified and competent, and therefore Brahman will be surely realized. > >Nondual Brahman - "Brahman is one without a second," says the Chhandogya >Upanishad (6.2.1) In the nondualistic experience, the knower, knowledge, >and >knowable become one. Thus, he who knows Brahman becomes Brahman. > >Great fear - The whole world is fraught with fear - death, disease, dispair, >grief, and so on. Where there are two, there is fear, because one limits >the >other. Only in nonduality is there no fear. When an aspirant attains >Brahman, he becomes fearless. > > >Sue. One becomes fearless, when becoming convinced that there is nothing to lose or to gain, whether is this life or another. The consequences, natural detachment and dispassion, have nonduality as their fruit but without desire as the carrier. Jan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 1999 Report Share Posted September 25, 1999 > >>From Sue:- > > > >(translator - Swami Chetanananda) > > > >It is God's grace alone which gives wise men the desire to >realize nondual > >Brahman; thus they are set free from great fear. Jan writes: >One becomes fearless, when becoming convinced that there is >nothing to lose or to gain, whether is this life or another. >The consequences, natural detachment and dispassion, have >nonduality as their fruit but without desire as the carrier. > >Jan As I understand: In way what Jan says is true. But the root cause for fear is the duality as Dattatreya in the Very first sloka of Avadhuta Geeta points out. "Eswararpitam eva pumsam advaita vaasana" - The emphasis of the sloka, as sue pointed out from the traslation of the verse, shows that even to gain the inclination towards understanding of non-dual nature of the Brahman, advaita vaasana, and of course realization of that state is due to the grace of God alone, Eswaraarpitam eva. Whenever there is a duality there is fear - since there are two and one limits the other and the limitation causes the fear. T. U. says " udaramantaram kurute athathasya bhayam bhavati" - even a spec of difference can result in the fear. Arjuna is afraid of viswaruupa and request Krinshan to withdraw since he sees the viswarupa separate from him - seer and seen and does not become one with it. That cuased him fear. Only advaitic understanding or realization alone brings fearless state. The rest are all if at all are by products rather than other way around. Hari Om! Sadananda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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