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An overview of nonduality - by Tim Gerchmez

 

Let's take a look at nonduality, and how it is viewed by the various

religions, teachers and individuals who hold the perspective. Note that

the word "man" used here is used to mean "mankind" or "humankind," and is

certainly not intended to leave out women.

 

Traditional Judeo-Christian religion teaches that man has a body, a mind

and a soul, and that the soul is more important than the body or mind.

This is partially true, and is a great step in the right direction. We

cannot afford to denigrate the viewpoints of these "dualistic" religions -

anything containing even a small measure of truth has great value.

 

Buddhism has several sects, essentially divided into two different

viewpoints. One view maintains that man has neither body, mind, nor soul,

is in fact empty of qualities or attributes altogether (Shunyata). This

view is entirely nondual, and is not nihilism, although it seems to come

close at times. The rest of Buddhism is very similar in perspective to

Advaita Vedanta (which we will examine in a moment). Despite seeming

differences, we'll see how looking at the Absolute in its "empty aspect"

and looking at it in its "full aspect" agree completely.

 

Advaita Vedanta also believes that man has neither body or mind, but does

believe that man has a soul (or rather, IS a soul), and that soul is not an

"individual soul" (jiva), but is in fact the Absolute (Brahman, God without

attributes). Advaita Vedanta looks at the Absolute in both its full and

empty "aspects" equally, and knows that these are simply differing

perspectives of the mind, while the Reality itself is the same. Advaita

Vedanta is also generally considered to be a theistic perspective, as it

acknowledges the existence of Saguna Brahman (God with Attributes, Creator

God), or Ishvara, on the relative plane, whereas Buddhism is considered to

be agnostic in perspective. We must remember, however, that each person is

going to view things differently, and these statements made here are simply

generalizations. Religions are meant for people, not people for religions.

 

So, which is truth? Is man lacking body, mind, and soul (completely

empty), or does man have a soul, which is in fact the Absolute (timeless,

attributeless Fact)? If you think about it, you'll see that both of these

viewpoints are saying precisely the same thing. The difference is simply

in focus. In fact, Buddhism (all of it) and Advaita Vedanta agree

completely, when the minor quibbles are examined in the bright light of

knowledge. Buddhist "awakening" or "nirvana" and Vedantic "realization"

are precisely the same thing (and in Zen, "Buddha-Nature" is the same as

the Vedantic "Atman/Brahman"), yet each mind will perceive awakening in the

light of the conditioning it has absorbed. If all conditioning is taken

away, all teachings are set aside, the fact remains that awakening is

awakening, and is the same always. Truth cannot differ, does not differ.

All these viewpoints are human minds looking at a mountain from different

angles.

 

In nonduality even the most major paradoxes are resolved (in fact, seen to

never have existed). I've also pointed out that even the Judeo-Christian

religions and "new age" beliefs are paths heading in the right direction,

although there are a few "new-age" belief systems that tend to lead toward

further darkness and ignorance.

 

A natural human tendency is to assume that a person's own path, their own

conditioning, is the only way to "enlightenment," as if the Absolute can be

limited by the pitiful thoughts or experiences of a particular person or

persons. This tendency exists in the Judeo-Christian religions as well (in

fact, is especially prevalent there). If a careful look is taken, it will

be seen that all Advaita (nonduality) is looking at the same mountain, but

from different angles. The mind is always limited, limited, limited. It

is limited by its own conditioning, and falls prey to that conditioning

again and again, surprisingly even in the greatest teachers. The mind

tends toward ignorance; ignorance is its nature, and that ignorance

generates disagreement. So all disagreement is ignorance, because there is

only one truth.

 

Most modern teachers or gurus teach a personal variation of either

Buddhism, Advaita Vedanta, or a "personal mixture." The benefit of modern

teachers is that they express the ancient discoveries in a way that the

modern mind can grasp much more easily. Teachers like J. Krishnamurti and

Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj bring their own brilliant yogas to "the scene,"

offering further richness and further pointings to truth. However,

ultimately, each person must pave their own path; set out into the

world-forest with nothing but a scythe and perhaps a guide. Reading about

nonduality, discussing nonduality, arguing nonduality has nothing to do

with nonduality. Everything depends on experience and practice. Everyone

has to find the correct way for them, even if that way is a mixture of

ways, or is no way at all -- then set out to cross the ocean of the world.

Some will drown in this lifetime. Others will reach the farther shore. It

does not matter, because all these paths are doing is getting rid of

ignorance, cleaning the glass so we do not "see through it darkly" anymore.

 

Eventually, ignorance (duality) will fall away from all creation, and

creation will return to its source. Until then, it is worthwhile to pursue

truth for its own sake, and for no other. If nonduality does not make

sense to you, discard it! Follow what you see as truth, and it can only

lead to truth. This is not to say that it's not worthwhile to explore the

teachings of others. Find those teachers or gurus who seem wise to you,

and follow them. Follow more than one, if you wish. Follow all of them.

Or follow only the Self, that still, small voice within. Dare to follow

truth, even if it leads into hell, because there is nothing else but truth.

To chase phantoms is childish. Let us always be brave and strong enough

to pursue only truth.

 

-----

"Words are only a mode of mind acting on mind."

 

"Who makes us ignorant? We ourselves. We put our hands over our eyes and

weep that it is dark."

 

"We should be brave to open the doors to receive all available light from

outside. Let rays of light come in, in sharp-driving showers from the four

quarters of the Earth."

 

"Truth is infinitely more weighty than untruth; so is goodness. If you

possess these, they will make their way by sheer gravity."

 

.... Swami Vivekananda

 

 

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Namaste Tim

 

Thanks for the motivating words. It is very inspiring. Regards.

 

Peace

Kathi

>

> Tim Gerchmez [sMTP:core1]

> Sunday, October 31, 1999 11:19 AM

> NondualitySalon ; advaitin

> Cc: umbada

> An overview of nonduality

>

> Tim Gerchmez <core1

>

>

> An overview of nonduality - by Tim Gerchmez

>

> Let's take a look at nonduality, and how it is viewed by the various

> religions, teachers and individuals who hold the perspective. Note that

> the word "man" used here is used to mean "mankind" or "humankind," and is

> certainly not intended to leave out women.

>

> Traditional Judeo-Christian religion teaches that man has a body, a mind

> and a soul, and that the soul is more important than the body or mind.

> This is partially true, and is a great step in the right direction. We

> cannot afford to denigrate the viewpoints of these "dualistic" religions -

> anything containing even a small measure of truth has great value.

>

> Buddhism has several sects, essentially divided into two different

> viewpoints. One view maintains that man has neither body, mind, nor soul,

> is in fact empty of qualities or attributes altogether (Shunyata). This

> view is entirely nondual, and is not nihilism, although it seems to come

> close at times. The rest of Buddhism is very similar in perspective to

> Advaita Vedanta (which we will examine in a moment). Despite seeming

> differences, we'll see how looking at the Absolute in its "empty aspect"

> and looking at it in its "full aspect" agree completely.

>

> Advaita Vedanta also believes that man has neither body or mind, but does

> believe that man has a soul (or rather, IS a soul), and that soul is not

> an

> "individual soul" (jiva), but is in fact the Absolute (Brahman, God

> without

> attributes). Advaita Vedanta looks at the Absolute in both its full and

> empty "aspects" equally, and knows that these are simply differing

> perspectives of the mind, while the Reality itself is the same. Advaita

> Vedanta is also generally considered to be a theistic perspective, as it

> acknowledges the existence of Saguna Brahman (God with Attributes, Creator

> God), or Ishvara, on the relative plane, whereas Buddhism is considered to

> be agnostic in perspective. We must remember, however, that each person

> is

> going to view things differently, and these statements made here are

> simply

> generalizations. Religions are meant for people, not people for

> religions.

>

> So, which is truth? Is man lacking body, mind, and soul (completely

> empty), or does man have a soul, which is in fact the Absolute (timeless,

> attributeless Fact)? If you think about it, you'll see that both of these

> viewpoints are saying precisely the same thing. The difference is simply

> in focus. In fact, Buddhism (all of it) and Advaita Vedanta agree

> completely, when the minor quibbles are examined in the bright light of

> knowledge. Buddhist "awakening" or "nirvana" and Vedantic "realization"

> are precisely the same thing (and in Zen, "Buddha-Nature" is the same as

> the Vedantic "Atman/Brahman"), yet each mind will perceive awakening in

> the

> light of the conditioning it has absorbed. If all conditioning is taken

> away, all teachings are set aside, the fact remains that awakening is

> awakening, and is the same always. Truth cannot differ, does not differ.

> All these viewpoints are human minds looking at a mountain from different

> angles.

>

> In nonduality even the most major paradoxes are resolved (in fact, seen to

> never have existed). I've also pointed out that even the Judeo-Christian

> religions and "new age" beliefs are paths heading in the right direction,

> although there are a few "new-age" belief systems that tend to lead toward

> further darkness and ignorance.

>

> A natural human tendency is to assume that a person's own path, their own

> conditioning, is the only way to "enlightenment," as if the Absolute can

> be

> limited by the pitiful thoughts or experiences of a particular person or

> persons. This tendency exists in the Judeo-Christian religions as well

> (in

> fact, is especially prevalent there). If a careful look is taken, it will

> be seen that all Advaita (nonduality) is looking at the same mountain, but

> from different angles. The mind is always limited, limited, limited. It

> is limited by its own conditioning, and falls prey to that conditioning

> again and again, surprisingly even in the greatest teachers. The mind

> tends toward ignorance; ignorance is its nature, and that ignorance

> generates disagreement. So all disagreement is ignorance, because there

> is

> only one truth.

>

> Most modern teachers or gurus teach a personal variation of either

> Buddhism, Advaita Vedanta, or a "personal mixture." The benefit of modern

> teachers is that they express the ancient discoveries in a way that the

> modern mind can grasp much more easily. Teachers like J. Krishnamurti and

> Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj bring their own brilliant yogas to "the scene,"

> offering further richness and further pointings to truth. However,

> ultimately, each person must pave their own path; set out into the

> world-forest with nothing but a scythe and perhaps a guide. Reading about

> nonduality, discussing nonduality, arguing nonduality has nothing to do

> with nonduality. Everything depends on experience and practice.

> Everyone

> has to find the correct way for them, even if that way is a mixture of

> ways, or is no way at all -- then set out to cross the ocean of the world.

> Some will drown in this lifetime. Others will reach the farther shore.

> It

> does not matter, because all these paths are doing is getting rid of

> ignorance, cleaning the glass so we do not "see through it darkly"

> anymore.

>

> Eventually, ignorance (duality) will fall away from all creation, and

> creation will return to its source. Until then, it is worthwhile to

> pursue

> truth for its own sake, and for no other. If nonduality does not make

> sense to you, discard it! Follow what you see as truth, and it can only

> lead to truth. This is not to say that it's not worthwhile to explore the

> teachings of others. Find those teachers or gurus who seem wise to you,

> and follow them. Follow more than one, if you wish. Follow all of them.

> Or follow only the Self, that still, small voice within. Dare to follow

> truth, even if it leads into hell, because there is nothing else but

> truth.

> To chase phantoms is childish. Let us always be brave and strong enough

> to pursue only truth.

>

> -----

> "Words are only a mode of mind acting on mind."

>

> "Who makes us ignorant? We ourselves. We put our hands over our eyes and

> weep that it is dark."

>

> "We should be brave to open the doors to receive all available light from

> outside. Let rays of light come in, in sharp-driving showers from the

> four

> quarters of the Earth."

>

> "Truth is infinitely more weighty than untruth; so is goodness. If you

> possess these, they will make their way by sheer gravity."

>

> ... Swami Vivekananda

>

>

> -----

> Visit The Core of the WWW at http://coresite.cjb.net -

> Music, Poetry, Writings on Nondual Spiritual Topics.

> Tim's other pages are at http://core.vdirect.net

>

> > Discussion of the True Meaning of Sankara's Advaita Vedanta Philosophy

> focusing on non-duality between mind and matter. List Archives available

> at: /viewarchive.cgi?listname=advaitin

> Mirror Archive Site: http://www.eScribe.com/culture/advaitin/

>

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Dear Sir Tim.

Thank your kind & blessing words.

Namaste.

Raju.

 

In a message dated 10/30/99 6:19:49 PM Pacific Standard Time, core1

writes:

> If nonduality does not make

> sense to you, discard it! Follow what you see as truth, and it can only

> lead to truth. This is not to say that it's not worthwhile to explore the

> teachings of others. Find those teachers or gurus who seem wise to you,

> and follow them. Follow more than one, if you wish. Follow all of them.

> Or follow only the Self, that still, small voice within. Dare to follow

> truth, even if it leads into hell, because there is nothing else but truth.

> To chase phantoms is childish. Let us always be brave and strong enough

> to pursue only truth.

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