Guest guest Posted November 1, 1999 Report Share Posted November 1, 1999 The Truth is ultimately simple and never absent. It could not be otherwise. Truth Sees It Self with Its Own Truth. We are the Truth. We must See It with our Own Eye. It is Only what One Is. Self is Always Self-Awake and Complete. The mind identity that arises out of the Self, and that is of the nature of Self in essence, has the feeling of limitation and weakness. Many explanations are given for this such as Karma, Maya, etc. So the practical instructions of the sages emphasize contemplation on the essential nature of identity with faith. Without faith one can never jump into the arms of the Divine Beloved. To allow that jump to take place at all is called Grace. Faith allows for total and immediate availability. Without it one speaks eloquently of water but remains thirsty. Any "doing" with the mind presupposes the retention of the mind and does not allow the conscious sinking of the mind into the Self from where it arises. The complete acceptance of things as they are, when it permeates meditation and life, undermines the resistance of the mind to merging in the Self. Faith is important. It is the preface to Grace. What IS, IS YOU. Not how you imagine yourself to be. But What you really are. Accept It Fully without compromise. Harsha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 1999 Report Share Posted November 1, 1999 Hari Om! Beautifully said Harshaji. It reinforces the statement of St. Augustine: "Faith is to believe what you don't see, and the reward is see what believe!" Dave Sirjue's quotation from Katha Upanishad also supports your viewpoints in this post. In Hinduism, the sages suggest that we should have the "Prasada Buddhi" and accepts everything as the gift of God (including the body, mind and intellect.) When our Buddhi transforms into "Prasada Buddhi," then we will be able to accept the life as given and follow the life style suggested by the Upanishads: "Life is a bridge, enjoy while crossing, don't build a castle on it." In the entire Bhagavad Gita, Bhagawan Shri Krishna teaches Arjun to develop such an attitude without any attachment to the results. The subtle message is, the action and also the results represent "prasad from Him" and our Buddhi should be tuned to accept the duties and the rewards/punishments without hesitation. When the human heart vacates all the evils from the heart, Grace will happy and divinity is completly restored. regards, Ram Chandran "Harsha (Dr. Harsh K. Luthar)" wrote: > "Harsha (Dr. Harsh K. Luthar)" <hluthar > > .................................................................................\ ......... To allow that jump > to take place at all is called Grace. Faith allows for total and immediate > availability. Without it one speaks eloquently of water but remains thirsty. > Any "doing" with the mind presupposes the retention of the mind and does not > allow the conscious sinking of the mind into the Self from where it arises. > The complete acceptance of things as they are, when it permeates meditation > and life, undermines the resistance of the mind to merging in the Self. > Faith is important. It is the preface to Grace. What IS, IS YOU. Not how you > imagine yourself to be. But What you really are. Accept It Fully without > compromise. > > Harsha > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 1999 Report Share Posted November 1, 1999 On Mon, 1 Nov 1999, Harsha (Dr. Harsh K. Luthar) wrote: > "Harsha (Dr. Harsh K. Luthar)" <hluthar > > The Truth is ultimately simple and never absent. It could not be otherwise. > Truth Sees It Self with Its Own Truth. We are the Truth. We must See It with > our Own Eye. It is Only what One Is. > > Self is Always Self-Awake and Complete. The mind identity that arises out of > the Self, and that is of the nature of Self in essence, has the feeling of > limitation and weakness. Many explanations are given for this such as Karma, > Maya, etc. So the practical instructions of the sages emphasize > contemplation on the essential nature of identity with faith. Without faith > one can never jump into the arms of the Divine Beloved. To allow that jump > to take place at all is called Grace. Faith allows for total and immediate > availability. Without it one speaks eloquently of water but remains thirsty. > Any "doing" with the mind presupposes the retention of the mind and does not > allow the conscious sinking of the mind into the Self from where it arises. > The complete acceptance of things as they are, when it permeates meditation > and life, undermines the resistance of the mind to merging in the Self. > Faith is important. It is the preface to Grace. What IS, IS YOU. Not how you > imagine yourself to be. But What you really are. Accept It Fully without > compromise. > > Harsha > namaste. Some thoughts on faith. I agree with Shri Harsha that faith is the most important for us to see and be the truth. Faith is the last step in one being the Knowledge itself. The following scenario describes how a stray thought entering the mind becomes the Knowledge that we are. Let us say a thought (aham brahmAsmi) passes through the mind when we attend a discourse by a swamiji. Quite often, that thought disappears and would not come back to the mind again. But let us say we analyze this thought again after the discourse. That means we bring that thought back into the mind. This repeated reappearance of that thought puts a root in that entity and that becomes established and requires nurturing (like the nurturing of a plant in a garden). If the mind is fertile and pure so that such a noble thought can take root, the thought certainly finds a place in the mind. This is the belief stage where we question whether that is real and seek external evidence for it. Mind is still in the questioning stage. After this process, and if the mind is suitably inclined, the mind gets convinced of that statement and slowly the belief becomes faith. This thought is now at the buddhi- citta realm. At this stage, we do not look for external evidence but some internal verifications only. Of all the knowledge that is assimilated in us, we look for points to strengthen this idea. Faith is the last stage before that statement (aham brahmAsmi) heard some time ago in an evening chance discourse, becomes part of us. Faith is where the buddhi and citta work conjointly and is beyond the manas stage. Faith is also the stage where we are looking, not for doubting obstacles, but for re-enforcing experiences. Because of the strength of faith, that statement heard sometime ago becomes part of that entity. Once it is a part (it is always a part of us, but without our realization of it), it can never be forgotten. The entity merges with THAT. MunDaka upanishad allegory (of two birds on the same Self tree, one serene and the other slowly merging with It) comes to mind. Regards Gummuluru Murthy - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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