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Dear Friends,

 

I enclose the following essay by Ken Wilber, who I feel had a

genuine breakthrough experience, in which he points out

the non-dual state, quite clearly.

I did not quite see the same integration in the essay Harsha

forwarded by Peter, though it is foundationally sound. I liked it,..

but it missed the aroma of a true mystic.

 

This essay deals with the "nondual state" as the ground or

integration of all the three states, rather than from the traditional ascetic

or withdrawal stance that neglects and undervalues the outer world;

an error which I believe, has cost India tremendously and affected its

economic and social development. Most of the intelligent and creative

minds were forced to or deliberately withdrew from society to the remote

hills, retreats and monasterys to occupy themselves in mediation and

other-worldly activities. The general masses and living conditions in the

country remained basically untransformed for centuries.

 

A reformation was rekindled, however, after the Hindu renaissance,

when individuals as Swami Vivekananda, Tagore and Aurobindo

introduced a social content to the spiritual doctrine, in contrast to the

the prevailing nihilist and mayavadi misinterpretations made by certain

individuals, regarding Shankara's teachings.

 

~dave

 

 

"Leonard Jacobs" <lj on 10/03/98 06:54:18 AM

 

Please respond to wilber

 

 

 

wilber

 

cc: (bcc: Dave Sirjue/EOG/Enron)

 

 

 

Excerpt from Ken's upcoming book ONE TASTE

 

 

 

 

 

This essay is excerpted from Ken Wilber's upcoming book:

ONE TASTE. This article will also be available soon on the Ken

Wilber web site, www.shambhala.com/wilber/.

================================================

 

So Who Are You?

by Ken Wilber

 

The witnessing of awareness can persist through waking, dreaming

and deep sleep. The Witness is fully available in any state,

including your own present state of awareness right now. So I'm

going to talk you into this state, or try to, using what are known in

Buddhism as "pointing out instructions." I am not going to try to

get you into a different state of consciousness, or an altered state

of consciousness, or a non-ordinary state. I am going to simply

point out something that is already occurring in your own present,

ordinary, natural state.

 

So let's start by just being aware of the world around us. Look out

there at the sky, and just relax your mind; let your mind and the

sky mingle. Notice the clouds floating by. Notice that this takes no

effort on your part. Your present awareness, in which these clouds

are floating, is very simple, very easy, effortless, spontaneous. You

simply notice that there is an effortless awareness of the clouds.

The same is true of those trees, and those birds, and those rocks.

You simply and effortlessly witness them.

 

Look now at the sensations in your own body. You can be aware of

whatever bodily feelings are present-perhaps pressure where you

are sitting, perhaps warmth in your tummy, maybe tightness in

your neck. But even if these feelings are tight and tense, you can

easily be aware of them. These feelings arise in your present

awareness, and that awareness is very simple, easy, effortless,

spontaneous. You simply and effortlessly witness them.

 

Look at the thoughts arising in your mind. You might notice various

images, symbols, concepts, desires, hopes and fears, all

spontaneously arising in your awareness. They arise, stay a bit,

and pass. These thoughts and feelings arise in your present

awareness, and that awareness is very simple, effortless,

spontaneous. You simply and effortlessly witness them.

 

So notice: you can see the clouds float by because you are not

those clouds-you are the witness of those clouds. You can feel

bodily feelings because you are not those feelings-you are the

witness of those feelings. You can see thoughts float by because

you are not those thoughts-you are the witness of those thoughts.

Spontaneously and naturally, these things all arise, on their own, in

your present, effortless awareness.

 

So who are you? You are not objects out there, you are not

feelings, you are not thoughts-you are effortlessly aware of all

those, so you are not those. Who or what are you?

 

Say it this way to yourself: I have feelings, but I am not those

feelings. Who am I? I have thoughts, but I am not those thoughts.

Who am I? I have desires, but I am not those desires. Who am I?

 

So you push back into the source of your own awareness. You

push back into the Witness, and you rest in the Witness. I am not

objects, not feelings, not desires, not thoughts.

 

But then people usually make a big mistake. They think that if they

rest in the Witness, they are going to see something or feel

something-something really neat and special. But you won't see

anything. If you see something, that is just another object-another

feeling, another thought, another sensation, another image. But

those are all objects; those are what you are not.

 

No, as you rest in the Witness-realizing, I am not objects, I am not

feelings, I am not thoughts-all you will notice is a sense of freedom,

a sense of liberation, a sense of release-release from the terrible

constriction of identifying with these puny little finite objects, your

little body and little mind and little ego, all of which are objects that

can be seen, and thus are not the true Seer, the real Self, the pure

Witness, which is what you really are.

 

So you won't see anything in particular. Whatever is arising is fine.

Clouds float by in the sky, feelings float by in the body, thoughts

float by in the mind-and you can effortlessly witness all of them.

They all spontaneously arise in your own present, easy, effortless

awareness. And this witnessing awareness is not itself anything

specific you can see. It is just a vast, background sense of

freedom-or pure emptiness-and in that pure emptiness, which you

are, the entire manifest world arises. You are that freedom,

openness, emptiness-and not any itty bitty thing that arises in it.

 

Resting in that empty, free, easy, effortless witnessing, notice that

the clouds are arising in the vast space of your awareness. The

clouds are arising within you-so much so, you can taste the

clouds, you are one with the clouds. It is as if they are on this side

of your skin, they are so close. The sky and your awareness have

become one, and all things in the sky are floating effortlessly

through your own awareness. You can kiss the sun, swallow the

mountain, they are that close. Zen says "Swallow the Pacific

Ocean in a single gulp," and that's the easiest thing in the world,

when inside and outside are no longer two, when subject and

object are nondual, when the looker and looked at are One Taste.

You see?

 

kw.

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Dear Dave,

 

Ken Wilbur indeed presents his pointings in a beautiful, easily accessible

style that anybody can follow. That is his mind's gift. The essay you

posted was particularly well done. It should be noted though, that words

are a mode of mind acting on mind (Vivekananda). Words can point to truth,

but they themselves contain no truth. One cannot experience the nondual

state by reading the words of Ken Wilbur or anyone else. One cannot

experience the nondual state at all, but only *be* that "state."

 

Thank you for this reposting of Ken Wilbur's essay,

 

With Love,

 

Tim

 

 

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Dear Friends,

 

I enclose the following essay by Ken Wilber, who I feel had a

genuine breakthrough experience, in which he points out

the non-dual state, quite clearly.

 

This essay is excerpted from Ken Wilber's upcoming book:

ONE TASTE. This article will also be available soon on the Ken

Wilber web site, www.shambhala.com/wilber/.

================================================

 

So Who Are You?

by Ken Wilber

 

The witnessing of awareness can persist through waking, dreaming

and deep sleep. The Witness is fully available in any state,

including your own present state of awareness right now. So I'm

going to talk you into this state, or try to, using what are known in

Buddhism as "pointing out instructions." I am not going to try to

get you into a different state of consciousness, or an altered state

of consciousness, or a non-ordinary state. I am going to simply

point out something that is already occurring in your own present,

ordinary, natural state.

 

So let's start by just being aware of the world around us. Look out

there at the sky, and just relax your mind; let your mind and the

sky mingle. Notice the clouds floating by. Notice that this takes no

effort on your part. Your present awareness, in which these clouds

are floating, is very simple, very easy, effortless, spontaneous. You

simply notice that there is an effortless awareness of the clouds.

The same is true of those trees, and those birds, and those rocks.

You simply and effortlessly witness them.

 

Look now at the sensations in your own body. You can be aware of

whatever bodily feelings are present-perhaps pressure where you

are sitting, perhaps warmth in your tummy, maybe tightness in

your neck. But even if these feelings are tight and tense, you can

easily be aware of them. These feelings arise in your present

awareness, and that awareness is very simple, easy, effortless,

spontaneous. You simply and effortlessly witness them.

 

Look at the thoughts arising in your mind. You might notice various

images, symbols, concepts, desires, hopes and fears, all

spontaneously arising in your awareness. They arise, stay a bit,

and pass. These thoughts and feelings arise in your present

awareness, and that awareness is very simple, effortless,

spontaneous. You simply and effortlessly witness them.

 

So notice: you can see the clouds float by because you are not

those clouds-you are the witness of those clouds. You can feel

bodily feelings because you are not those feelings-you are the

witness of those feelings. You can see thoughts float by because

you are not those thoughts-you are the witness of those thoughts.

Spontaneously and naturally, these things all arise, on their own, in

your present, effortless awareness.

 

So who are you? You are not objects out there, you are not

feelings, you are not thoughts-you are effortlessly aware of all

those, so you are not those. Who or what are you?

 

Say it this way to yourself: I have feelings, but I am not those

feelings. Who am I? I have thoughts, but I am not those thoughts.

Who am I? I have desires, but I am not those desires. Who am I?

 

So you push back into the source of your own awareness. You

push back into the Witness, and you rest in the Witness. I am not

objects, not feelings, not desires, not thoughts.

 

But then people usually make a big mistake. They think that if they

rest in the Witness, they are going to see something or feel

something-something really neat and special. But you won't see

anything. If you see something, that is just another object-another

feeling, another thought, another sensation, another image. But

those are all objects; those are what you are not.

 

No, as you rest in the Witness-realizing, I am not objects, I am not

feelings, I am not thoughts-all you will notice is a sense of freedom,

a sense of liberation, a sense of release-release from the terrible

constriction of identifying with these puny little finite objects, your

little body and little mind and little ego, all of which are objects that

can be seen, and thus are not the true Seer, the real Self, the pure

Witness, which is what you really are.

 

So you won't see anything in particular. Whatever is arising is fine.

Clouds float by in the sky, feelings float by in the body, thoughts

float by in the mind-and you can effortlessly witness all of them.

They all spontaneously arise in your own present, easy, effortless

awareness. And this witnessing awareness is not itself anything

specific you can see. It is just a vast, background sense of

freedom-or pure emptiness-and in that pure emptiness, which you

are, the entire manifest world arises. You are that freedom,

openness, emptiness-and not any itty bitty thing that arises in it.

 

Resting in that empty, free, easy, effortless witnessing, notice that

the clouds are arising in the vast space of your awareness. The

clouds are arising within you-so much so, you can taste the

clouds, you are one with the clouds. It is as if they are on this side

of your skin, they are so close. The sky and your awareness have

become one, and all things in the sky are floating effortlessly

through your own awareness. You can kiss the sun, swallow the

mountain, they are that close. Zen says "Swallow the Pacific

Ocean in a single gulp," and that's the easiest thing in the world,

when inside and outside are no longer two, when subject and

object are nondual, when the looker and looked at are One Taste.

You see?

 

kw.

 

 

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At 05:50 AM 11/3/99 -0800, Tim Gerchmez wrote:

 

>Words can point to truth, but they themselves contain no truth.

>One cannot experience the nondual state by reading the words of

>Ken Wilbur or anyone else. One cannot experience the nondual

>state at all, but only *be* that "state."

 

This makes it sound like a matter of choice or focus or practice or skill,

as though one can be in California or Arizona, or experience heat or

cold. If there is anything that is experienced at all, how can it be

anything other than the nondual? If there is anything that one *is*, how

can it be other than the nondual? But if it is a state, then what is it a

state of?

 

With love,

 

--Greg

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