Krishna Leela & its characters [was Krishna Leela]

[Guest guest]

>"Vivekananda Centre" <vivekananda

>Jashoda had

>forgotten to carry her stick. Little boy who played Krishna realised this,

>stopped running - went to the side of the stage brought and handed the

>stick

>to Jashoda -- so that the chase can continue. This little play within the

>play is perhaps the heart of 'Sri Krishna's teachings.

>

>All this is a play! - It is Krishna alone who is getting beaten up and it

>is

>Krishna alone who hands the stick - It is Krishna alone who becomes all of

>us and plays.

 

This may be borne out of what the scriptures say. So that may be Pramaana

but how can we believe it? How do *I* know that the beater and the beaten is

Krishna ?

>It is nice to ravel in Advaita - but the moment we even blink an eyelid,

>open our mouth to say something - nay, even in the very process of thinking

>advaita - we are strictly in the field of the Dvaita. It is in this field -

>we need help. Who cares for any help in the state of Advaita? - It is in

>the

>field of Dvaita that we need someone to hold our hand.

 

Duality does not exist. Maya is anirvaachaniya is it not? If we stick to the

Advaita principles, then there is no question of Duality as a real thing.

However, what we see and feel, though illusory, appears real. The helping

hand that you talk of is the Shastric karmas. Are they not ? But no one

follows them anymore, barring a very few. In this Kali Yuga, where the

declared principle is liberation alone, how can we progress on the path to

Moksha ? Trying to live in this world and work in this culture (USA for

example) and then attributing all our fruits to the Lord is all very

difficult.

>Hence the need of an 'enlightened one' holding our hand. May we all receive

>this helping hand.

>

 

How and when does this happen ? Without a Guru, how are we to know what is

our best path ?

 

ashish

[Guest guest]

At 07:25 PM 11/8/99 EST, you wrote:

>"Ashish Chandra" <ashvedantin

>How and when does this happen ? Without a Guru, how are we to know what is

>our best path ?

 

Not everyone needs or desires a Guru, and not everyone can find one even if

they do. The best path can be found through experimentation, although that

could take a long time (and often does). But Gurus are few and far between

in the U.S. If a path could only be found through a Guru, then Advaita

would be limited only to those who could find one (perhaps much easier to

find 100-300 years ago, not so easy in 1999). But the Self Itself can be

considered a guru, the "still small voice." Some call this voice

intuition. If the soul is ripe, a Guru may not be necessary.

 

Also, there are many teachings presented in writing, and often a person may

be drawn to those teachings above all others. For example, I am drawn very

strongly to Vivekananda's teachings, and consider him my Guru "in

absentia." :-). And to Shankara's teachings as well. These people are

physically dead, but in the Atman they survive forever.

 

With Love,

 

Tim

 

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