f maiello/J Krishnamurti

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At 10:41 PM 11/10/99 -0500, you wrote:

>"f. maiello" <egodust

>Krishnamurti is a classic example of a jnani

>who was an ineffective teacher. for example,

>his recommendation that meditation be given

>up..that no-one needs it, served to cause much

>misunderstanding and even critical misguidance.

 

Not only did he recommend giving up meditation, but essentially recommended

giving up everything, including all tradition, the words of other Gurus,

etc... and he even said that other saints, sages, etc. have 'destroyed

themselves' through their practices (which to me is inexcusable. This is

no way to help set anybody free!).

>it's quite true that it should be given up in

>its formal sense at the time when one is ripe

>and ready to drop the idea of shifting between

>states of meditation and non-meditation. yet

>this shouldn't have been arbitararily prescribed

>for everyone, obviously.

 

I agree that J. Krishnamurti was an ineffective teacher, and have

determined that the core reason is this: He was too pure a jnani to

"connect" with most people. Jnana can be effectively practiced by only a

very few in its pure form. Krishnamurti appealed to the intellect only,

never to the heart. Human beings are not giant brains sitting in vats,

they have hearts, and have the subtle body sheath, etc. The fact

Krishnamurti encouraged constant questioning was good, but the way in which

he discounted everything else *but* questioning is what destroyed the

effectiveness of his teaching. He was also too quick to demolish the

traditions and teachers of others, which is just too much for people.

 

It's possible for someone further along "the path" to learn much from

Krishnamurti, but he said that his message was for all mankind. Yet he

taught a yoga that could be effective only for those who could "see

through" his negativity regarding anything but his own methods. Even

seeing through it, it tends to be more "disturbing" than "enlightening."

 

.... And it bears mentioning that his "most successful" disciple was U.G.

Krishnamurti, who took the *worst* of his teachings and began to teach

people himself, at the same time claiming "I have nothing to offer or teach

to mankind." The whole affair is rather sad and bizarre.

 

Hari OM,

 

Tim

 

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