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Dear Jaishankar,

 

At 04:40 PM 11/15/99 IST, you wrote:

>"Jaishankar Narayanan" <jaishankar_n

>I think what you have said is condescending and I dont know how you can

>assume that I am only seeing the reflection and not the reality.

 

I humbly apologize if what I said created that impression. I didn't mean

to condescend to you, and if it came out that way, I can only give you a

heartfelt apology. Perhaps you're right in that I'm assuming too much

about what 'you' see.

 

<snip>

>from your postings I am not clear what is the means that

>you are suggesting to remove ignorance.

 

I think that the means are many. There are a million paths up the side of

the mountain, and all those paths converge in the same place at the top.

All the yogas, the traditional paths are valid. But there are also

undiscovered paths, paths that nobody has tread yet. "Truth is one, sages

call it by various names."

>If you dont accept the Vedas as a valid means of knowledge then are you

>suggesting any other means of knowledge?

 

I *do* accept the Vedas as a valid means of knowledge. But I don't exclude

other things as potential valid means of knowledge as well, and I think

that's where we differ. My outlook seems to be more inclusive than yours.

You exclude all but the Vedas. Yet at the same time, you say that the

Vedas are inclusive of everything else. This is an unusual standpoint, but

perhaps we are really saying the same thing, but our minds are looking at

it differently, I don't know (?)

>I just want to point out one thing

>here. If I remember correctly you had said that you think that the words of

>Vivekananda gave you clarity and you consider him your guru in absentia. Now

>the words of Vivekananda wrt to the non-dual reality is nothing but the

>words of the Veda. So If you have removed your ignorance using his words

>then you have used the words of the Vedas for that purpose without

>appreciating the fact that it is a valid means of knowledge.

 

Again, I am not denigrating the Vedas, please don't misunderstand. I only

can't accept that exclusionist viewpoint that says "my way or the highway."

I can't accept that *only* the knowledge in the Vedas is true knowledge.

The Vedas were written by human beings. Is that the limit to human

experience, some scriptures that were written thousands of years ago? Does

that invalidate the experience of the moment, of the Now? Has human

knowledge ended with the Vedas, and now it is impossible for humanity to

learn anything more, to discover new paths? Could a new Veda be written in

the year 1999?

>Finally, I think you have an insight and in your enthusiasism to share your

>insight after many years of hardships you are making certain blanket

>statements (Which may be true from your standpoint) which may do much harm

>to people in general.

 

People are only the Absolute. How can Brahman be harmed, my friend?

 

Hari OM,

 

Tim

 

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