Guest guest Posted November 17, 1999 Report Share Posted November 17, 1999 HariH Om Jaishankarji: Thanks for taking time to point out my errors and omissions. Though I have no objection to the word "accommodate," I prefer for "tolerance" for the following reasons. According to American Heritage Dictionary, the meaning of the two words are shown: Accommodate: To do a favor or service for Tolerance: The capacity for or the practice of recognizing and respecting the beliefs or practices of others. In addition, ‘tolerance' can also mean capacity to endure hardship or pain. In my article, I stress the primary meaning and "Religious Tolerance" used in the literature supports the meaning that I attribute. If I say that I accommodate other religious view points, it implies that I am doing a favor for somebody. Such an expression signifies, it is not from the "heart," but from the "head" to please somebody. What I am talking about is implanting a permanent positive attitude toward other religious thoughts. However, I willing consider and accommodate all other constructive criticisms from you. I appreciate your deep knowledge in Advaita and I see the touch of the scholarship of Swami Dayanandaji through you. The list is quite fortunate to have you as a member and I value your scholarship and time. I personally admire the Swami Dayanandaji, a true spiritual person with scholarship, humility and compassion. Last month, I attended his lectures on Gita and I want to share what I observed during the question and answer sessions. Peoples from religious and spiritual traditions were present and the question and answer session was wide open for all questions. Some inappropriate questions also came from audience but I was amazed that he handled those questions so well. Swamiji was very compassionate and tolerant to other viewpoints and he answered the questions with an open mind. His answers were thought-provoking without provoking the feelings of the audience. The entire question and answer session was conducted with dignity and peace. We the members of the list should take time to attend the lectures of sages like Dayanandaji and learn to conduct our discussions with dignity and peace. Ram Chandran Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 1999 Report Share Posted November 17, 1999 Ram Chandran [chandran] Wednesday, November 17, 1999 8:41 AM advaitin Should it be Tolerance or Accomodation? "Ram Chandran" <chandran HariH Om Jaishankarji: Thanks for taking time to point out my errors and omissions. Though I have no objection to the word "accommodate," I prefer for "tolerance" for the following reasons. According to American Heritage Dictionary, the meaning of the two words are shown: Accommodate: To do a favor or service for Tolerance: The capacity for or the practice of recognizing and respecting the beliefs or practices of others. In addition, 'tolerance' can also mean capacity to endure hardship or pain. In my article, I stress the primary meaning and "Religious Tolerance" used in the literature supports the meaning that I attribute. If I say that I accommodate other religious view points, it implies that I am doing a favor for somebody. Such an expression signifies, it is not from the "heart," but from the "head" to please somebody. What I am talking about is implanting a permanent positive attitude toward other religious thoughts. However, I willing consider and accommodate all other constructive criticisms from you. I appreciate your deep knowledge in Advaita and I see the touch of the scholarship of Swami Dayanandaji through you. The list is quite fortunate to have you as a member and I value your scholarship and time. I personally admire the Swami Dayanandaji, a true spiritual person with scholarship, humility and compassion. Last month, I attended his lectures on Gita and I want to share what I observed during the question and answer sessions. Peoples from religious and spiritual traditions were present and the question and answer session was wide open for all questions. Some inappropriate questions also came from audience but I was amazed that he handled those questions so well. Swamiji was very compassionate and tolerant to other viewpoints and he answered the questions with an open mind. His answers were thought-provoking without provoking the feelings of the audience. The entire question and answer session was conducted with dignity and peace. We the members of the list should take time to attend the lectures of sages like Dayanandaji and learn to conduct our discussions with dignity and peace. Ram Chandran Hurry Home! Hurry Home guys :--). Love to all Harsha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 1999 Report Share Posted November 17, 1999 In a message dated 11/17/99 5:40:53 AM Pacific Standard Time, chandran writes: > I personally admire the Swami Dayanandaji, a true spiritual person with > scholarship, humility and compassion. Last month, I attended his lectures on > Gita and I want to share what I observed during the question and answer > sessions. Peoples from religious and spiritual traditions were present and > the question and answer session was wide open for all questions. Some > inappropriate questions also came from audience but I was amazed that he > handled those questions so well. Swamiji was very compassionate and tolerant > to other viewpoints and he answered the questions with an open mind. His > answers were thought-provoking without provoking the feelings of the audience. > The entire question and answer session was conducted with dignity and peace. > We the members of the list should take time to attend the lectures of sages > like Dayanandaji and learn to conduct our discussions with dignity and peace. > > Ram Chandran > Dear Adwaitin Sirs, & Madams. Pranam. I would like add following to this topics; again it is from Srimad Bhagbatam. I hope our members will find enough of Adwaita here too. I find very interesting & in fact trying to understand. Namaskar to all. Yours Raju. ***** Srimad Bhagbata, Book 12 , Dis. 6. Suta resumed: Thus advised, King Janameyaya said “Amen !†(Nay.,) respecting the remonstrance of the great sage, (Brhaspati) he desisted from snake -sacrifice, and (duly) worshipped Brhaspati (the master of eloquence). (28) Such is the well-known, though inconceivable, great Maya (enchanting potency) of Lord Vishnu. Due to this Maya, which cannot be (easily) set aside, living beings, that are His (own) particles, fall foul of their fellow-beings under the force of passions (such as anger, which are the outcome of the three Gunas). (29) Maya which repeatedly flashes on the mind through the notion,â€A is a wily man’, does not boldly reveal itself in God when (the nature of) the Self is being inquired into by the exponents of the Self (but is shown to exist somehow like one in great fear without discharging its function of enchanting others). (Nay) in relation to Him there is no room for wordy warfare of various description originating from Maya nor does the mind with its functions of ideation and doubt operate with regard to Him. (30) In relation to Him there does not exist any Karma (belonging to the category of virtue or sin) with factors responsible for it nor the fruit (in the shape of joy or sorrow) to be attained through both nor the ego, the adjunct of a Jiva, accompanied by the three above-named (viz., Karma, the factors responsible for it and the fruit of it). Such is the nature of God, who is neither capable of being opposed by nor of opposing anyone. (Therefore) renouncing the ego etc., (which are like so many waves of Maya), a Sage should himself specifically revel in the self.(31) Yogis who have given up (false) identification with the body and the feeling of meum with regard to those connected with it and are exclusively devoted to God, and who are (therefore) keen to reject everything other than God as “not thatâ€; “not thatâ€, declare the aforesaid to be the supreme essence of the all-pervading Lord. (Nay) it has been concluded to be such by those who, having embraced it with their heart (through meditation), have been able to control their mind , senses and body. (32) They (alone) are able to attain this supreme state of Lord Vishnu, who are free from the evil notion of “I†and ‘mine†with regard to their body and home, nor should one enter into hostility with anyone for the sake of this (perishable) body and home (etc., respectively). (33) Salutation to the illustrious Lord Sri Krsna of infinite intelligence, through meditation on whose lotus feet I learnt this compilation (in the form of Srimad Bhagvata) ! (35) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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