Guest guest Posted November 18, 1999 Report Share Posted November 18, 1999 Sorry if my comments had hurt the sentiments of some people. I was not discussing Swami Vivekananda in my mail, but only wanted to point out how a wrong interpretation can cause damage. The reason I mentioned Swami Vivekananda's name was because he has forcefully used these translations at many places including the famous Chicago address (if I remember correctly). So, the earliest source of this translation we find is his. Since we are discussing vedanta shastra, I feel, we should be objective in our presenting our views. Moreover, I didn't mean that Swami Vivekananda has done damage to the society. (Personally, I owe a lot to Swami Vivekananda and am one who has studied his complete works and am a student of Ramakrishna mission. I have been inspired and sustained by his words since 18 years now.) I only said that the wrong translation of 'ekam sat vipra bahuda vadanti' has done damage. It need not have been Swami vivekananda's translation at all. In any case, Swami Vivekananda's greatness is what it is, inspite of my recognition or non-recognition of it. Beyond any doubt, the whole humanity and especially most of the seekers owe tremendously to this great man. When it comes to understanding vedanta, we have to be objective and open. Even our emotional attachment to personalities make us subjective. While in this context, I want to discuss another point, about status of guru with respect to shastra. (Just wanted to point out that I am not discussing any particular person but a general subject matter.) It is a catch-22 situation, because both GURU and SHASTRA are considered same by us (Shraddha is defined as 'GURU SHASTRA VAKYESHU VISWASHAHA' - trusting words of GURU and SHASTRA) what do we take as final authority? That is the reason why UPANISHAD itself says 'Shrothriyam Brahma Nishtam Gurum Eva Abhigachcheth', meaning 'take refuge in one who is learned in vedantha through sampradaya and is also one having nishta in Brahmna vastu'. One has to notice that BOTH aspects are important, Sampradayavithvam and Brahmanishta. One having both can alone be a teacher. An asampradayavith jnaani, if it is a possibility, cannot be a teacher (Shankara says 'asampradayavith moorkavath upekshaneeyaha' - A person not belonging to sampradaya is equivalent to an ignorant man). An ajnaani and a sampradayavith is still not qualified to be a teacher. So, GURU VAKYA and SHASTRA VAKYA will not be two different things if it comes from a Shrothriya and Brahma nishta, and such guru has to be approached in order to gain this knowledge. Gurucharana pankaha Kalyan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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