Guest guest Posted November 26, 1999 Report Share Posted November 26, 1999 There is definitely no final word on whether world experience is 'realism' or 'idealism'. Both are only standpoints. The inside-outside are only standpoints. 'Realism' assumes all objects as objects and independent subjects. 'Idealism' says only perception is true. But, even in 'Idealism', the perceptions and the independent subjects are real. So, both talk only duality and more or less retain the problem of samsara. Accepting either of the theories is only a faith or belief, since neither can be established as truth against the other. Only point these two conflicting viewpoints prove is that the world (perception) is 'unexplainable' or 'anirvachaneeya'. Both buddhists and vedantis(advaita) agree to this. The kshanikavignaanavaadis (buddhists) say that discontinuous flashes of consciousness alone is what that exist with nothing underneath. In Mandukya karika, the fourth prakarana - alaatha shanthi - Gauda paada says that world is 'chitta spandana maatram'. He takes up the spinning of the fireball as an example. When an fire-ball is spun, it creates various image patterns for the observer. But, all that exists is the one fireball and in every moment and every part of the pattern what we see in only that fireball. So too, the experience of world is chaitanya (consciousness) alone in every bit of it. Inside, outside, me, you, that, this, time, space everything is nothing but that one consciouness alone. Nothing else stands investigation. Research on the lines of realism and idealism will lead to nowhere since at one point of time, we will have to conclude based on our own conviction in either of the theorems. I feel swami vivekananda is only concluding that there is no way of categorising the world between realism and idealism. He didn't take the extra step in that quote, to explain the vedantic vision of world. We can probably locate his views on the subject matter at other places in his works. kalyan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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