Greg/instantaneousness

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>>Greg:

>>After reading several of his works, I must say that several distinctions

popped and dropped: physical/mental, inside/outside, entity/attribute. I

never saw things the same way again. One un-philosophical girlfriend

thought Berkeley's ideas were absolutely nutsoid and that I was living in

la-la-land. She thought it was miraculous that I never got hit by a city

bus while crossing the street!!

 

Dan: Perhaps she had a point! For me, it's most definitely a miracle that

I'm sitting here. Not only a miracle that I didn't get hit by a bus, but

that this body assumed a presence on a little pebble floating around a

gaseous star, that it had air to breathe, and that its delicate metabolism

continues to function in spite of invasions from bacteria, viruses, toxins,

and lots of crazy ideas from various folks. Will wonders never cease?

Halleleuia!!

 

There isn't any inside or outside - but if a bus hits me - boom! - an

explosion

occurs!! We can't say definitively that it's a mental or physical

explosion, but just the same - boom! - not a lot of time to think about it

or even form an intention to analyze it!! For me, all the philosophy ends

at that instant of "impact" when there's simply no time for a thought to

occur... then, in that instantaneousness, the wonderful thoughts of

Berkeley, Suzuki, Ramana are of no great value - there's simply not time to

process even one word or image!!

Another miraculous thing - here we are talking, analzying, hearing lots of

wonderful words of insightful sages - meanwhile being hit moment by moment

by the largest Bus ever!!!

 

-- with love -- Dan

 

 

 

 

With love,

 

--Greg

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>>>Greg:

>One un-philosophical girlfriend

>thought Berkeley's ideas were absolutely nutsoid and that I was living in

>la-la-land. She thought it was miraculous that I never got hit by a city

>bus while crossing the street!!

>

>Dan: Perhaps she had a point! For me, it's most definitely a miracle that

>I'm sitting here. Not only a miracle that I didn't get hit by a bus, but

>that this body assumed a presence on a little pebble floating around a

>gaseous star, that it had air to breathe, and that its delicate metabolism

>continues to function in spite of invasions from bacteria, viruses, toxins,

>and lots of crazy ideas from various folks. Will wonders never cease?

>Halleleuia!!

 

My ex-girlfriend was a very pragmatic and unreflective person and didn't

think the ordinary was miraculous. But I heartily agree with your

expression here. Every moment is the way it must be, and owes its

character to its inconceivable connections with everything else. Nothing

stand on its own, nothing is left out, nothing is repeated... The entire

cosmos conspired to make this moment what it is - how can it be anything

*but* miraculous?

 

Love,

 

--Greg

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well,i'm forced back by this very interesting stuff.(it must have been the

shortest hibernation in history:-))

i see influences of bell's theorem/anthropic principle in the

interconnected/instantaneous discussion,am i correct?

well,vedanta will say all was me,...the bus,the bacteria..all--or nothing

ever was except me.

 

>Greg Goode <goode

>advaitin

>advaitin , advaitin

>Re: Re: Greg/instantaneousness

>Sat, 27 Nov 1999 19:34:19 -0500

>

>

> >>>Greg:

> >One un-philosophical girlfriend

> >thought Berkeley's ideas were absolutely nutsoid and that I was living in

> >la-la-land. She thought it was miraculous that I never got hit by a city

> >bus while crossing the street!!

> >

> >Dan: Perhaps she had a point! For me, it's most definitely a miracle

>that

> >I'm sitting here. Not only a miracle that I didn't get hit by a bus, but

> >that this body assumed a presence on a little pebble floating around a

> >gaseous star, that it had air to breathe, and that its delicate

>metabolism

> >continues to function in spite of invasions from bacteria, viruses,

>toxins,

> >and lots of crazy ideas from various folks. Will wonders never cease?

> >Halleleuia!!

>

>My ex-girlfriend was a very pragmatic and unreflective person and didn't

>think the ordinary was miraculous. But I heartily agree with your

>expression here. Every moment is the way it must be, and owes its

>character to its inconceivable connections with everything else. Nothing

>stand on its own, nothing is left out, nothing is repeated... The entire

>cosmos conspired to make this moment what it is - how can it be anything

>*but* miraculous?

>

>Love,

>

>--Greg

>

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At 03:58 AM 11/28/99 GMT, Devendra Vyas wrote:

>"Devendra Vyas" <dev_vyas74

>

>well,i'm forced back by this very interesting stuff.(it must have been the

>shortest hibernation in history:-))

>i see influences of bell's theorem/anthropic principle in the

>interconnected/instantaneous discussion,am i correct?

>well,vedanta will say all was me,...the bus,the bacteria..all--or nothing

>ever was except me.

 

No, actually I wasn't thinking about Bell at all. The

interconnected/instantaneous comes from other ways of looking at it. If

each thing that arises is me, then everything is connected by all being me.

If we view things as in Madhyamika, each thing arises dependent on other

things, then if we look into the nature of anything, we can't find it -

what we do find is parts, pieces, characteristics, that are all related to

other things' characteristics. E.g., it is a characteristic of my computer

that it has a 12" monitor. It is also a characteristic that it is

so-many-thousands of miles from Arunachala, Ramana's holy mountain. And

each moment is like that...

 

Welcome back!!

 

--Greg