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dear greg,

i have pasted here a part of your message of a few days(about 2

weeks) back--on the perception discussion.:

 

You say that "What 'exists' (the thing in itself) is not perceived," and

a

bit later, "We don't perceive reality but the impression that it makes on

the internal instrument and, the internal instrument as it's fitness may be

shows us the picture of reality.." Let me boil these down into very simple

terms:

 

(a) There exists an X.

(b) But we don't percieve X.

(b) X makes an impression on the internal instrument.

(d) The impression is not X but rather a picture of X.

 

This is the classic realist position, and is taught and reinforced

throughout Western society. The trouble is, from the standpoing of not

going beyond our experience and logic, what evidence do we have for the

truth of (a)-(d)? Can we establish any one of these statements?

>>now ,the basic q. is how do we know (a)-(d)?in my limited understanding

>>---does'nt this conclusion(a-d) follow from perceptual relativity?.also,as

>>long as we feel "our" consciousness is connected/limited to the body,we

>>have to admit 'things' apart from 'us' and our perception of them through

>>some perceptual process/mechanism.

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