Jump to content
IndiaDivine.org

4 maths

Rate this topic


Guest guest

Recommended Posts

Hi, I'm new on the list. I've been confused for some time too about the

various orders, but just recently found this explanation in "Dancing with

Siva":

 

Sankaracarya established four main pithas (monasteries) or mathas as

centers of Smarta authority, each with a distinct lineage of gurus and a

"reigning pontiff" known as the Sankaracarya, and each having one of the

four Vedic Great Statements as a mantra. East Cost: Govardhana Matha in

Puri, center of the Aranya and Vara orders. Himalayas: Jyotih Matha, near

Badrinath, center of the Giri, Parvata and Sagara orders. West Coast:

Sarada Matha, in Dwarka, center of Tirtha and Ashrama orders. South:

Sringeri Matha, center of Bharata, Puri and Sarasvati orders. A fifth

pitha associated with Sringeri is also in the South, in Kanchipuram.

Sannyasins of these monastic orders generally have "ananda" attached to

their religious name.

 

I am curious to know which Mahavakya is associated with which matha, does

anyone know?

 

My guru from my childhood, originally known as Dr. Rammurti S. Mishra,

took sannyas later in life to become Sri Brahmananda Sarasvati, but I

never had the chance to ask him historical details like this - or it

never occurred to me - and he has since died.

 

Namaste,

Zo Newell

 

_________________

Why pay more to get Web access?

Try Juno for FREE -- then it's just $9.95/month if you act NOW!

Get your free software today: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

On Sat, 11 Dec 1999, Zo Newell wrote:

> Zo Newell <zonewell

>

> Hi, I'm new on the list. I've been confused for some time too about the

> various orders, but just recently found this explanation in "Dancing with

> Siva":

>

> Sankaracarya established four main pithas (monasteries) or mathas as

> centers of Smarta authority, each with a distinct lineage of gurus and a

> "reigning pontiff" known as the Sankaracarya, and each having one of the

> four Vedic Great Statements as a mantra. East Cost: Govardhana Matha in

> Puri, center of the Aranya and Vara orders. Himalayas: Jyotih Matha, near

> Badrinath, center of the Giri, Parvata and Sagara orders. West Coast:

> Sarada Matha, in Dwarka, center of Tirtha and Ashrama orders. South:

> Sringeri Matha, center of Bharata, Puri and Sarasvati orders. A fifth

> pitha associated with Sringeri is also in the South, in Kanchipuram.

> Sannyasins of these monastic orders generally have "ananda" attached to

> their religious name.

>

> I am curious to know which Mahavakya is associated with which matha, does

> anyone know?

>

> My guru from my childhood, originally known as Dr. Rammurti S. Mishra,

> took sannyas later in life to become Sri Brahmananda Sarasvati, but I

> never had the chance to ask him historical details like this - or it

> never occurred to me - and he has since died.

>

> Namaste,

> Zo Newell

>

 

 

namaste.

 

The four pIThAs and their associated mahA vAkyAs (as per my understanding)

are:

 

West: ShAradA maTha; gomatI tIrtham; first pIThAdhipati is hastAmalaka;

maTha sannyAsis have the names ending with tIrtha or Ashrama; kshetra is

dwaraka; pITha devata is siddheshwara; veda is sAma; associated mahA vAkya

with this pITha is tat tvam asi. The regions under control of this pITha

are sindhu, souveera, saurAShTra and maharAShTra.

 

East: govardhana maTha; first pIThAdhipati is padmapAda; maTha sannyAsis

have the names ending with vana or araNya; kshetra is puruShottama; pITha

devata is jagannAdha; veda is R^gveda; associated mahAvAkya is prajnAnam

brahma. The regions under control of this pITha are a~Nga, va~Nga,

kali~Nga.

 

North: jyotirmaTha; first pIThAdhipati is toTaka; maTha sannyAsis have

the names ending with giri, parvata, sAgara; kshetra is badarikAshrama;

pITha devata is nArAyaNa; tirtha is alakananda; veda is atharva;

associated mahA vAkya is ayam AtmA brahma. The regions under control

of this pITha are maru, kashmira, kAmbhoja and pA~ncAla.

 

South: shr^~NgerI maTha; tu~NgabhadrA tIrtham; first pIThAdhipati is

sureshwara; maTha sannyAsis have the names ending with saraswati, puri,

bhArati; pITha devata is varAha; veda is yajur; associated mahA vAkya

is ahaM brahmAsmi; The regions under control of this pITha are andhra,

draviDa. karNATa, keraLa.

 

 

Regards

Gummuluru Murthy

-----

Link to comment
Share on other sites

>South: shr^~NgerI maTha; tu~NgabhadrA tIrtham; first pIThAdhipati is

>sureshwara; maTha sannyAsis have the names ending with saraswati, puri,

>bhArati; pITha devata is varAha; veda is yajur; associated mahA vAkya

>is ahaM brahmAsmi; The regions under control of this pITha are andhra,

>draviDa. karNATa, keraLa.

>

 

Dear G Murthy,

 

You've mentioned DraviDa as seperate from Andhra, Karnataka and Kerala, by

which I understand that you mean Tamil Nadu. In ancient Indian history

Dravida is genrally used to refer to the gerographical region south of the

VindhyAs - all the five current day states - Maharashtra, Kerala, Karnataka,

Andhra and Tamil Nadu.

 

So are you quoting from some text regarding the matham information? And is

it mentioned the way you've stated - Dravida as distinct from Andhra, Kerala

and Karnataka?

 

With respect to the original question regarding the matham at KAnchi :

 

The the matham at KAnchipuram is not affiliated to Shringeri, but considers

itself as the true Shankara matham in the Southern India.

 

Rgds,

Nanda

Link to comment
Share on other sites

On Mon, 13 Dec 1999, nanda chandran wrote:

> "nanda chandran" <vpcnk

>

>

> >South: shr^~NgerI maTha; tu~NgabhadrA tIrtham; first pIThAdhipati is

> >sureshwara; maTha sannyAsis have the names ending with saraswati, puri,

> >bhArati; pITha devata is varAha; veda is yajur; associated mahA vAkya

> >is ahaM brahmAsmi; The regions under control of this pITha are andhra,

> >draviDa. karNATa, keraLa.

> >

>

> Dear G Murthy,

>

> You've mentioned DraviDa as seperate from Andhra, Karnataka and Kerala, by

> which I understand that you mean Tamil Nadu. In ancient Indian history

> Dravida is genrally used to refer to the gerographical region south of the

> VindhyAs - all the five current day states - Maharashtra, Kerala, Karnataka,

> Andhra and Tamil Nadu.

>

> So are you quoting from some text regarding the matham information? And is

> it mentioned the way you've stated - Dravida as distinct from Andhra, Kerala

> and Karnataka?

>

 

namaste.

 

Yes, I am quoting from MaThAmnAyam. It is not certain whether this

is the writing of shri Shankara. Apparently, there is good evidence

that maThAmnAyam was written by vidyAraNya. The verses referring to

the southern maTha are the following:

 

caturtho daksiNAmnAyaH shr^~NgerI tu maTho bhavet

saMpradAyo bhUrivAraH bhUrbhuvo gotramucyate

 

padAni trINi khyAtAni saraswatI bhAratI purI

rAmeshwarAhvayaM kshetramAdhi varAhadevatA

 

kAmAkshI tasya devIsyA tsarvakAmaphalapradA

sureshwarAkhya AcArya stu~Ngabhadreti tIrthakam.h

 

caitanyAkhyo brahmacArI yajurvedasya pAThakaH

ahaM brahmAsmi tatraiva mahAvAkyaM samIritam.h

 

aNdhra drAviDa karNATa keraLAdi prabhedataH

shr^~NgeryadhInA deshAste hyavIcI digavsthitAH

 

I have translated the last verse as referring to Andhra,

draviDa (I assume the reference is to the present day Tamila

nAdu), karNATa and keraLa. Adi there may refer to maharAShTra

as well, but maharAShTra was specifically mentioned in the

western maTha verse.

 

I do not know the significance of reference here to kAmAkshi

as the pITha shakti. An alternate verse in this context is

the following:

 

tIrthamca tu~NgabhdrAkhyaM shaktiH shrIshAradetica

AcAryaH tatra caitanya brahmacArIti vishrutaH

 

 

tIrtha is tungabhadra. pIThashakti is shAradAdevI. brahmacArI is

caitanya

 

.......

 

> With respect to the original question regarding the matham at KAnchi :

>

> The the matham at KAnchipuram is not affiliated to Shringeri, but considers

> itself as the true Shankara matham in the Southern India.

>

 

I am aware of the 'controversy' re ka~nci, but I do not know much

about it.

 

> Rgds,

> Nanda

>

 

Regards

Gummuluru Murthy

----

Link to comment
Share on other sites

namaste.

 

Further to my post of yesterday on this topic, I like to provide a

reference here to a series of posts a year ago by shri Ravishankar

Mayavaram on AmnAya stotram in the advaita-l. The verses posted

by shri Ravishankar seem to be different from what I have, while

the essence of the verses is the same. The reference URL is

 

www.eScribe.com/religion/advaita/index.html?mlD=5300

 

I cannot say whether the AmnAya stotram referred to by shri Ravi

is the same as the maThAmnAyam that I have referred here.

 

My thanks to shri Ravi for bringing those postings to my attention.

 

Regards

Gummuluru Murthy

---

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Loading...
×
×
  • Create New...