Guest guest Posted December 12, 1999 Report Share Posted December 12, 1999 Namaste, Thanks Gummuluru for the info on the mahAvAkyAs and four pithas! The opening couplet of the Isha Upanishad is: IsAvAsyam idam sarvam yat kim ca jagatyAm jagat tena tyaktena bhunjithA, mA grdhah kasyasvid dhanam. "All this, whatever moves in this moving world, is enveloped by God. Therefore find your enjoyment in renunciation; do not covet what belongs to others." (S. Radhakrishnan trans.) "Claim nothing. Enjoy" seems to me to miss the main point, that enjoyment comes from letting go of a sense of personal ownership and renouncing the sense of desire. Meher Baba advised his lovers that in any action - sleeping, walking, eating, buying or listening to or playing music - we should keep in the back of our minds the thought that "all is Baba's" and that through us, God is performing those actions. This of course echoes Lord Krishna's advice in the Gita. With such an attitude honestly held, you desire nothing in an exclusive way, so you don't incur the pain of a frustrated ego when the desire is not fulfilled. Re: Devandra's comment ("like living in the USA and not knowing about Bill Clinton!!", very funny) -- There seem to be people on this list who are quite unfamiliar with Advaita and its founder Adi Shankara. I am curious as to why they d to such a list? (No criticism intended, just wondering.) For any of you who would like to find out about Advaita firsthand, I have a suggestion. My guru Sri Brahamanda recommended Shankaracarya's ATMABODHA, "Knowledge of Self", to beginners; he called it "a complete Bible of mysticism in which nothing is left out!" Possibly discussions would be more satisfying if we all were, um, on the same page. Zo _________________ Why pay more to get Web access? Try Juno for FREE -- then it's just $9.95/month if you act NOW! Get your free software today: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 1999 Report Share Posted December 13, 1999 dear sir, imho,advaita taken in a certain sense is more broad and panoramic than we can imagine--if we consider the search for existence-knowledge-bliss (sat-chit-ananda) that each one of us is consciously/unconsciously engaged in---it comes out that the entire human existence comes within the purview of advaita.thus,all science-all attempts to broaden-ALL are the unfoldment of the same search for completeness,for perfection(in a proper or improper way).everything is a preparation for advaita.all that has been ,will be -can be--is the same story viz., the struggle of every spark of consciousness to unite with the fire from whence it came. your wonderment at people being attracted to advaitic lists without knowing anything about it's history formally- is understandable but attraction towards anything even remotely spiritual/mystical/religious ultimately is attraction towards advaita(though one may not realize it explicitly)--if you view it in this way --i feel the point can be reconciled. also,adi sankara was amongst the foremost exponents of advaita---but i don't think he was it's "founder"--if there ever was one!!if at all--this credit has to be given it can be given to gaudapada--sankara's grandguru--or to the seers who gave us the upanishads---or better still to brahman!! rgds-devendra. >Zo Newell <zonewell >advaitin >advaitin > Re: Desire; mahAvAkyAs >Mon, 13 Dec 1999 07:34:08 EST > >Namaste, > >Thanks Gummuluru for the info on the mahAvAkyAs and four pithas! > >The opening couplet of the Isha Upanishad is: > >IsAvAsyam idam sarvam yat kim ca jagatyAm jagat >tena tyaktena bhunjithA, mA grdhah kasyasvid dhanam. > >"All this, whatever moves in this moving world, is enveloped by God. >Therefore find your enjoyment in renunciation; do not covet what belongs >to others." >(S. Radhakrishnan trans.) > >"Claim nothing. Enjoy" seems to me to miss the main point, that >enjoyment comes from letting go of a sense of personal ownership and >renouncing the sense of desire. >Meher Baba advised his lovers that in any action - sleeping, walking, >eating, buying or listening to or playing music - we should keep in the >back of our minds the thought that "all is Baba's" and that through us, >God is performing those actions. This of course echoes Lord Krishna's >advice in the Gita. With such an attitude honestly held, you desire >nothing in an exclusive way, so you don't incur the pain of a frustrated >ego when the desire is not fulfilled. > > >Re: Devandra's comment ("like living in the USA and not knowing about >Bill Clinton!!", very funny) -- >There seem to be people on this list who are quite unfamiliar with >Advaita and its founder Adi Shankara. I am curious as to why they >d to such a list? (No criticism intended, just wondering.) >Forhere seem to be people on this list who are quite unfamiliar with >Advaita and its founder Adi Shankara. I am curious as to why they >d to such a list? (No criticism intended, just wondering.) For >any of you who would like to find out about Advaita firsthand, I have a >suggestion. My guru Sri Brahamanda recommended Shankaracarya's ATMABODHA, >"Knowledge of Self", to beginners; he called it "a complete Bible of >mysticism in which nothing is left out!" Possibly discussions would be >more satisfying if we all were, um, on the same page. > >Zo > > >_________________ >Why pay more to get Web access? >Try Juno for FREE -- then it's just $9.95/month if you act NOW! >Get your free software today: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. > >------ >Discussion of the True Meaning of Sankara's Advaita Vedanta Philosophy >focusing on non-duality between mind and matter. Searchable List Archives >are available at: http://www.eScribe.com/culture/advaitin/ Contact Email >Address: advaitins > ><< text3.html >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 1999 Report Share Posted December 13, 1999 Dear Devendraji, I appreciate your bringing in a broader perspective than mine re:advaita and its scope and " founders". Of course you are right about its cosmic and eternal nature, and that each of us is drawn to truth as it is the core of our own being. "ChidAnanda rupam, Shivoham, Shivoham." Rgds, Zo _________________ Why pay more to get Web access? Try Juno for FREE -- then it's just $9.95/month if you act NOW! Get your free software today: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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