Guest guest Posted December 18, 1999 Report Share Posted December 18, 1999 Misty Peacock [hot_syena] Thursday, December 16, 1999 11:24 AM advaitin-owner Re: Welcome to advaitin Greetings to the list, and Amanda and Dale. This site was recommended to me and I hope to learn much. I am familiar with Yogananda, Patanjali's Yoga Sutras, MSI of the Ishaya's, the Rig Veda, and the Upanishads. That is about it as far as related material goes. My knowledge is more experiential than anything and the experiences have found explanation in these writings for me. I am only somewhat familiar with the sanskrit terms for the different states of consciousness, the goals, the explanations etc. For me, I have found that going within will follow a definite path of experience no matter what name is given, whether Bhuddist, Indian, Shaman, Tibetan or whatever. It is all pretty much the same couched in different terms of reference and culture. My goal is attainment of full human consciousness. Waking up if you will. In the past year I have meditated appx. 3000 hours with this goal in mind. Pretty much in innocence of what to expect, and with that have no others! experience to attain except my own. In the past while, I have joined different lists in an attempt to understand and find explanations for myself. It has mostly been grand, but at the same time I find myself tired of the constant "heady" stuff. The involvement of the intellect in this learning curve. And I guess I'm at a point where my question is this...Does any of it matter? Cannot the attempt to understand with the mind, experiences that cannot be contained within that framework of limitation, be self defeating within the desired goal? Send one on an endless "chasing the tail" within the intellect when all we need do is "go there" within and all answers come to us without more effort than that? All the books in the world cannot supplant experience. And phylosopies are still thoughts, although well structured good ones, that are of the mind. Of the ego realm. So that is where I am with this whole thing. Seeking still. Open! to all. But more in my head than I desire. My name is Syena...pronounced Shee-ay-na. It is a sanskrit name and means the "eagle that brings cosmic consciousness from the heavens, carrying soma in each talon and in its beak". Huge vibration to live up to. Nuff said. Namaste to all. advaitin-owner wrote: _____ Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. </> Shopping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 1999 Report Share Posted December 18, 1999 hariH OM! i had replied to this in a private email, and feel it is worth sharing with the List. namaskaaram to all _______ Misty Peacock wrote: I guess I'm at a point where my question is this...Does any of it matter? Cannot the attempt to understand with the mind, experiences that cannot be contained within that framework of limitation, be self defeating within the desired goal? Send one on an endless "chasing the tail" within the intellect when all we need do is "go there" within and all answers come to us without more effort than that? _____ hariH OM! yes. you have placed your finger on the very essence and pith of what advaita vedanta (as well as *all* the esoteric teachings of all ages and cultures) is attempting to cause us to discover: that the truth lies within the Heart, beyond the intellect. the teachings of Sri Ramana Maharshi are, to my experience, the quickest and clearest delivery of this very discovery and insight. however, the answers you are alluding to are not the ordinary answers devised and theorized by the Mind, to be revealed. in other words the [metaphysical] answers aren't within the purview of logic. insofar as adapting one's understanding derived from such 'answerless answer' to the riddles of life itself [including the world of human psychology], are variable according to the unique circumstances involved. i don't really believe there can be a fixed right answer to any given situation, since the ways of the Relative world are finally mysterious. the best one can do is the best one can do. no fault for what in retrospect may prove a certain relative failure. the inner connection remains despite the outer misgiving... namaste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 1999 Report Share Posted December 18, 1999 Welcome to the list Neo & Amanda & Syena from another member. Neo: 'For many years I thought Enlightenment was something to be obtained, some state of mind to be achieved. It is only in the past year or two that I have come to realize that what is necessary is the dissolution of my separate, individual, ego based self.' Yes me too. > Misty Peacock syena > All the books in the world > cannot supplant experience. And phylosopies are still thoughts, although > well structured good ones, that are of the mind. Of the ego realm. So that > is where I am with this whole thing. Seeking still. Open! to all. But more > in my head than I desire. My name is Syena...pronounced Shee-ay-na. It is a > sanskrit name and means the "eagle that brings cosmic consciousness from the > heavens, carrying soma in each talon and in its beak". Huge vibration to > live up to. Nuff said. Namaste to all. I will share how thoughts & philosophies have helped me. At times I have been given non verbal powerful experiences. But then I come back to my ego mind after. I have found that that aspect of self, wished verbal (thoughts) or translation of the non verbal information that was experienced, in order not to resist It. I found that thoughts & philosophies could either guide me to trust, or fear, the dissolution of familar boundaries that seem to provide structure for ego. That has been the value of words from Masters for me. I also see what Frank is referring to when he describes infinity Self as mystery that finite self hasn't a hope of encompassing in any verbal manner. Love the meaning of your nicknames Neo & Syena. Bye now, Colette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2000 Report Share Posted January 1, 2000 Dear Barret, We welcome you to the advaitin list on behalf of all our members. I am sure the list will benefit from your experience. Thank you. Regards, Moderators of Advaitin Barrett [bharata] Friday, December 31, 1999 11:22 AM I have studied & practiced several forms of Advaita since 1967, primarily involving the teaching of Sankara and Ramanamaharshi, and the meditations taught by each. I am a retired professor of Philosophy & Eastern Religions, which I taught for 33 years. Spend most of my time meditating, reading, walking and surfing the WWW, primarily Hindu and Buddhist sites. Glad to have found a discussion group involved with my interests. All the best to you, and happy new millenium, but, as HH the Dalai Lama recently said, "Same people, same suffering, different date." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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