Guest guest Posted December 28, 1999 Report Share Posted December 28, 1999 Vis wrote: > There is a big gulf between psychology and Spirituality. > Psychology is to create a healthy ego for successful survival in this material world. > Spirituality is to go beyond the ego and experience the indescribable. Col wrote: >To me there is no seam. The human >psyche expands into the >infinite Self. It's all one energy unfolding. >Psyche is Spirit ~ to me. Well, at least the psyche needs to be able to do the partial resolution into the Self (prior to establishments there) and to be able to do this process, which can be upsetting in particular when working with Shakti, the psyche has to be stable and flexible (at the same time). Psychology can help a great deal in stabilizing the psyche, but in the end, the significance of the psyche, the focus of the witness on the individual psyche may be loosened. I must admit seeing a conceptual schism between modern clinical psychology and bonda fide spirituality. Yet, at one time, they were one. I suspect that shamans used what would today be labeled as psychology to treat patients. In the works of Jung and to some extent, Freud, psychology was mixed with spirituality. In the case of Jung very much so, to the sacrifice of psychology, many would say. I personally consider Freud's theories to be as much about spirituality as Jung's, but on a different level, on a more direct and practical level. I do not consider Freud's theories to be very effective in helping ppl of modern societies out of time constraints and practical questions in re. traditional Freudian psychoanalysis, but his work in depth psychology, what the face of the soul of the child can be seen as, I find very interesting. To me, his work is more research of the soul than it is research into how give ppl a better life. More practically oriented schools in psychology have offered better results. Best regards, Amanda. Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 1999 Report Share Posted December 29, 1999 Hi! If we define Spirituality as non materialistic, then it is similar to Psychology. But it is lot more than that. Psychology formulates a series of patterns (or models) for the non materialistic mind. However, Spirituality goes beyond the mind. Most (Scientists and) Psychologists (I mean the famous ones) begin to sound more and more spiritual when their minds find no reasonable explanation for what they see and experience. When the patient totally trusts the Shaman the patient's "I" is on-hold! This allows natural energy to flows through the patient and cures him. -- Vis winter mute wrote: > Vis wrote: > > There is a big gulf between psychology and Spirituality. > > Psychology is to create a healthy ego for successful survival in this material world. > > Spirituality is to go beyond the ego and experience the indescribable. > > Col wrote: > >To me there is no seam. The human > >psyche expands into the > >infinite Self. It's all one energy unfolding. >Psyche is Spirit ~ to me. > > Well, at least the psyche needs to be able to > do the partial resolution into the Self > (prior to establishments there) and > to be able to do this process, which can be > upsetting in particular when working > with Shakti, the psyche has to be stable > and flexible (at the same time). > > Psychology can help a great deal in > stabilizing the psyche, but in the end, > the significance of the psyche, the > focus of the witness on the individual > psyche may be loosened. > > I must admit seeing a conceptual schism > between modern clinical psychology and > bonda fide spirituality. Yet, at one time, > they were one. > I suspect that shamans used what would today > be labeled as psychology to treat patients. > In the works of Jung and to some extent, > Freud, psychology was mixed with spirituality. > In the case of Jung very much so, to the sacrifice of psychology, many would say. > > I personally consider Freud's theories to be > as much about spirituality as Jung's, but on a > different level, on a more direct and practical > level. > I do not consider Freud's theories to be very > effective in helping ppl of modern societies > out of time constraints and practical > questions in re. traditional Freudian > psychoanalysis, > but his work in depth psychology, > what the face of the soul of the child can be > seen as, I find very interesting. > To me, his work is more research of the soul > than it is research into how give ppl a better > life. More practically oriented schools in > psychology have offered better results. > > Best regards, > > Amanda. > > Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com > > > > -- > Discussion of the True Meaning of Sankara's Advaita Vedanta Philosophy focusing on non-duality between mind and matter. Searchable List Archives are available at: http://www.eScribe.com/culture/advaitin/ Contact Email Address: advaitins > > > ======================================================================== > To UNSUBSCRIBE from this community, send an email to: > advaitin- > and reply to the confirmation email we send you. > ======================================================================== Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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