The Sage

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> Nitin wrote:

> The core Amness is the basic screen of Consciousness upon which

> everything appears. It is upstream of all conceptualization. The

> differentiated witness is the illusory `me' which is a total

> illusion.

>

> The constructed programmed personality is the phenomenally real

> (anatomical-physiological) body-mind which acts and reacts in

> everyday life.

>

> The core Amness is the real You (and I), the differentiated

> witness

> is what one *thinks* oneself to be, and the c.p.p. is what

> carries

> on the lila of daily life in the phenomenal reality

>

> All the three = the average person.

> Remove the (illusion of) the d.w., and you have the sage.

 

 

Frank wrote:

> the jiva (ego-Mind) that evolves and finally

> transfigures into the jivatman, represents moksha

> (Self-realization) and is the fulfillment of the

> will of brahman.

 

Wow! If by this you mean that the transfiguration of the Jiva into

the Jivatman if a form of moksha and fulfills the will of Brahman,

I enthusiatically agree with this articulation. And I think the

Sage arises not so much from an 'erasure' of the personality as it

does from the 'union' of the person (Jiva) with the core Amness of

the Atman, giving an individualized Jivatman where Atman is present

in the world wearing the garment of the personality of the

illumined Sage. After all, Aurobindo and Ramana Maharshi were

still present with us with illumined personalities after their

transfigurations, right?

 

(So yes, Colette, psyche merges into Atman, I think, because they

are all transient formations of/within Brahman, and there are no

real lasting separations of Brahman's formations from Brahman.)

 

Frank again:

> . . . the essence of the Self is the

> operable foundational substance of the jivatman,

> simultaneously retaining what is referred to as

> a 'burnt rope' individuality within the matrix

> of brahman's lila. ('burnt rope' because, like

> a rope it appears to have a unique function, yet

> it's considered burnt because it has no capacity

> to act *on its own, apart* from its source in

> paramatman [or brahman].)

 

Sounds true to me!

 

Namaste,

-- Max

 

 

 

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