Guest guest Posted January 1, 2000 Report Share Posted January 1, 2000 First out, let me apologize for the double posting to the list ! > Thu, 30 Dec 1999 14:57:31 -0500 > Greg Goode <goode >Origin of the I feeling > Thanks for the reply to my post, Greg. >How does this all relate to the mind? By examining our experience, we >cannot find a "mind" that is a holder or container or controller of >thoughts. All we find is thoughts. Yes, I would have to agree with this. >Same thing >for feelings and bodily sensations -- all these appearances or experiences, >one simply follows another. When speaking about bodily sensations: What about non-verbalized feelings that get stuck in the body, causing psychosomatic disease ? What are they ? I wonder if psychosomatic disease may be negative and stressful thoughts having become stuck in the body = mindbody. Are feelings something else than thoughts, or simply non-verbalized thoughts ? I know some scriptures separate the emotional body from the mental body, but all the bodies form a continuum, so... >The experiences arise from this awareness, are sustained in the awareness and >subside back into the awareness. But this awareness cannot itself be an >experience, because an experience cannot be aware of an experience. You're right ! One cannot be anything, only a witness to what happens. Even the most intense and dramatic events do not happen to anyone, it is only the thought impressions from these and also the replayed thoughts = memories, that we can witness ! Ah, what fresh air ! (Which makes me wonder about things such as inhaling and exhaling. Is that only witnessed as well ?) >So I >cannot be any one of these experiences. What I am is that to which these >experiences appear - Awareness Itself. Stay in awareness, a good advice. Thanks Greg ! > Fri, 31 Dec 1999 10:35:59 +1100 > Colette <colette >Origin of the I feeling > >I enjoyed your comments Amanda very much. Thank you very much, Col. Hope you had a good New Year's Eve down under. I keep being fascinated by the Dreaming and the Dream Time of the Aborginees. Could they mean Spirit dreaming the world into existence ? >I found this quote last night from Osho which also helped me ~ > >There will only be the mirror without mirroring anything. Then you have arrived home. >You can mirror beautiful things, & it is good, but when the mirror is absolutely empty ... Thanks for the quotes, Col. I wonder, may one not mirror the bliss found within when the mirror is clean ? It is my impression one need not even have a clean mirror to be able to mirror the bliss in a small amount. > Thu, 30 Dec 1999 22:34:50 -0500 > "Harsha (Dr. Harsh K. Luthar)" <hluthar >Hello Everyone > >Hello everyone. Just got back into town today. Hello Harsha, hope you're all well too ! Thanks for good post. > Thu, 30 Dec 1999 22:18:57 -0800 > "R. Viswanathan" <rvis >Origin of the I feeling > >First let us know what is the mind >Can we define mind as the associative memory? >Is mind a mirror and what we see of ourselves >in this mirror is just a reflection (and not >real)? >Or is mind a filter that protects the physical >self from any (presumed) harm? This last definition is something that has crossed my mind. I think that the mind's original purpose was to protect the physical body by collecting, storing and computing the sense impressions and make the body able to act in such a way that it would be preserved long enough to propagate its genes. Nothing wrong with that, just doing some digging in the evolutionary past. >Given this confusion (or clarity!), how can we >relate it to (another unknown) the I-feeling? >Does the I-feeling originate in the mind or is >it created by ego? Then comes the another >question what is the ego. Here we go again! >I am sure some one should know better!! LOL ! Yes, one question gives rise to another one. >When we remove the comparisons or when we do >not rely on comparisons to understand, then >the truth occurs. In place of relative >understanding there is only absolute knowledge. >In such a state, the mind perceptions and I->feelings merge and all become an experience of >truth. Thanks for the interesting viewpoints and joyful exchange of ideas. It's been great reading your thoughts. I bubble around and feel like everybody, so the reminder of awareness and experience in truth is a good one. It's great experiencing and finding out for oneself. Thanks again, every body. Best regards, Amanda. Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2000 Report Share Posted January 1, 2000 It is good to see the Gita study begin. winter mute wrote: > "winter mute" <mumblecat > > First out, let me apologize for the double > posting to the list ! > > > Thu, 30 Dec 1999 14:57:31 -0500 > > Greg Goode <goode > >Origin of the I feeling > > > > Thanks for the reply to my post, Greg. > > >How does this all relate to the mind? By examining our experience, we > >cannot find a "mind" that is a holder or container or controller of > >thoughts. All we find is thoughts. > > Yes, I would have to agree with this. > > >Same thing > >for feelings and bodily sensations -- all these appearances or experiences, > >one simply follows another. > > When speaking about bodily sensations: > What about non-verbalized feelings that get > stuck in the body, causing psychosomatic > disease ? What are they ? Hi Amanda I am enjoying your discussion,They can be a big pain! I know about those. Physical blocks caused by repressed emotions starting way back in childhood. It seems they may manifest in the body to get our attention. > I wonder if psychosomatic disease may be > negative and stressful thoughts having become > stuck in the body = mindbody. Yes. Maybe all disease is just that. > Are feelings something else than thoughts, > or simply non-verbalized thoughts ? > > I know some scriptures separate the > emotional body from the mental body, > but all the bodies form a continuum, so... Yes they do. And that is why when one becomes more expanded in awareness .. any blocks to this energy expressing uninhibitedly will become known .. I am just learning .. I do not really know. > I keep being fascinated by > the Dreaming and the Dream Time of the > Aborginees. > Could they mean Spirit dreaming the world into > existence ? I guess so! :-) > >I found this quote last night from Osho which also helped me ~ > > > >There will only be the mirror without mirroring anything. Then you have arrived home. > >You can mirror beautiful things, & it is good, but when the mirror is absolutely empty ... > > Thanks for the quotes, Col. > > I wonder, may one not mirror the bliss found > within when the mirror is clean ? > It is my impression one need not even have a > clean mirror to be able to mirror the bliss > in a small amount. Well to me .. it is like yes at any time while learning about one's essence .... we may experience total purity .. because it is always untouched by duality. The essence is never dirtied at all in any way ~ always shining .. perhaps. :-) Bye Amanda, love, Col Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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