Guest guest Posted January 9, 2000 Report Share Posted January 9, 2000 ----Original Message Follows---- "firak or rahasya" <sonja.kotar advaitin "advaitin" <advaitin > FW: fresh message re: Free-will is not Free! Mon, 10 Jan 2000 11:19:34 -0800 namaste, Some more questions and comments: Truth can be 'known' only by becoming IT (becoming one with IT). ++++Yes Logic has its limits in illumining or achieving this oneness. ++++Yes Koans are one way of jumping the hurdles of logic. The statement : 'understand free-will is programmed', would fall into this category, would it not? It would be like asking the sun to understand what night is! ++++Yes and no. The human intellect can understand concepts that are beyond its direct experience. The challenge is to take concepts about Truth as a hypothesesis to be verified by direct experience. Not just believe them. The statement there are mysteries unknown to Buddhas is also not logical; by definition. ++++It is logical. A Buddha has no way to know how existence is actually created and destroyed, ***** Existence is NEVER created and can NEVER be destroyed. for example. As Gita says: " svayamevaatmanaatmaana.n vettha tvaM purushhottama ." (10:15) Thou knowest Yourself by Yourself Alone. ++++Old scriptures are the experience of Buddhas from long ago, recorded by disciples and translated into various languages. Their relevence to transformation herenow is often limited. The most potent words are the fresh message from Source in these messages ****** The Gita's relevance is ETERNAL. it is to be lived in the here and now. Regards, Sunder ----Original Message Follows---- "firak or rahasya" <sonja.kotar advaitin "advaitin" <advaitin > Re: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 14:57:19 -0800 ____ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2000 Report Share Posted January 10, 2000 Beloved Sunder Love My comments are in your text++++ "Sunder Hattangadi" <sunderh namaste, Some more questions and comments: Truth can be 'known' only by becoming IT (becoming one with IT). ++++Yes Logic has its limits in illumining or achieving this oneness. ++++Yes Koans are one way of jumping the hurdles of logic. The statement : 'understand free-will is programmed', would fall into this category, would it not? It would be like asking the sun to understand what night is! ++++Yes and no. The human intellect can understand concepts that are beyond its direct experience. The challenge is to take concepts about Truth as a hypothesesis to be verified by direct experience. Not just believe them. The statement there are mysteries unknown to Buddhas is also not logical; by definition. ++++It is logical. A Buddha has no way to know how existence is actually created and destroyed, for example. As Gita says: " svayamevaatmanaatmaana.n vettha tvaM purushhottama ." (10:15) Thou knowest Yourself by Yourself Alone. ++++Old scriptures are the experience of Buddhas from long ago, recorded by disciples and translated into various languages. Their relevence to transformation herenow is often limited. The most potent words are the fresh message from Source in these messages Love Maitreya Regards, Sunder ----Original Message Follows---- "firak or rahasya" <sonja.kotar advaitin "advaitin" <advaitin > Re: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 14:57:19 -0800 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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