Guest guest Posted January 20, 2000 Report Share Posted January 20, 2000 Namaste, The articles are available in the book: " The Bhagavadgita as a Philosophy of Self-realisation ", (being a clue to through the labyrinth of modern interpretations), by R.D.Ranade Publ.: Bharatiya Vidya Bhavan, Bombay, 3rd. edition 1982 They have a branch in New York City. Regards, S. ----Original Message Follows---- Ram Chandran <chandran advaitin advaitin Re: Bhagavad Gita and The Upanishads - The Connection: By Dr. Ranade Thu, 20 Jan 2000 11:42:27 -0500 Gregji: Namaskar, You are quite right that this article is great. This artilce is taken from: Bhagavad Gita - The Multimedia Book Version 1.1 ( A Multimedia CD for Windows 95) I find the CD quite valuable and it contains an ocean of articles from many sources. Those who use the CD directly through the computer can not see these hidden materials with in the CD as text files. I was just lucky to find these materials (and there is so much more to come during later part of Gita Satsang) and I am delighted to share with the list. I have written to the CD producer and he has given me permission to quote from the CD. Most of the compilation of articles from different sources was done by Sri. Pandurang a member of the team which is responsible for producing the CD. This CD is a great resource for those who want to find the hidden treasures of Gita. regards, Ram Chandran Greg Goode wrote: > Ram-ji, > > Great article! Where/when was it published? > > --Greg > ____ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2000 Report Share Posted January 20, 2000 Greetings: We are in the beginning of Gita and it is the right time to understand that the philosophical ideas expressed in Gita comes from the major upanishads. The following article, a lecture by the well known philosopher saint, Dr. Ranade is a scholarly description of the relationship between Gita and Upanishads. This article will give all of us the motivation to undertake Gita Satsang with dedication, discipline and determination. Ram Chandran ================================================================= Bhagavad Gita and The Upanishads - The Connection: By Dr. Ranade (Dr. R. D. Ranade, a saintly philosopher and savant of great eminence, delivered a series of three lectures in 1928 under the auspices of the Nagpur University, for the Rao Bahadur Bapu Rao Dada Kinkhede Lectureship Endowment. This is one of the three lectures delivered by Dr. Ranade. This is being reproduced here for more people to read and get the essence of the teachings of Gita and Upanishads. The list wants to assure Nagpur University and the Endowment that this reproduction is only for discussion and learning and not for profit) The Upanishads have been veritably the source of the teachings of the Bhagavadgita. The Bhagavadgita is indebted to almost all the Upanishads in this connection. It will not be possible for us to do justice to this multiple indebtedness. We shall confine our review to the five Upanishads, namely Isa, Katha. Mundaka, Chandogya and Svetasvatara. The relation of the Bhagavadgita to the Nrsimha-Uttara-T'apaniya Upanishad will be dealt with later in the course of this work. Isopanishad The first point to be noted in connection with the indebtedness of the Bhagavadgita to the Isopanishad consists in the teaching by the Isopanishad as regards activism. It has, however, been further developed by the Bhagavadgita. The Isopanishad does make mention of non-contamination by action; but the further teaching of autonomy, which we find in its developed form in the Bhagavadgita, is its original contribution to thought. The Isopanishad tells us It tells us that we are born here below in this mortal world in order to do action. But we should also see that we do not become entangled in it. The conception of autonomy in the Kantian sense was developed long ago in the Bhagavadgita. We know from the Bhagavadgita, for example, that we should do our duty for duty's sake : This is its contribution to the philosophy of activism. In fact, the Isopanishad supplies the basis of activism to the Bhagavadgita, upon which erects the structure of autonomy. The second point of connection between the Isopanishad and the Bhagavadgita is that even though there are some passages referring to self-realisation in the Bhagavadgita, we find the doctrine of self-realisation almost in its full-fledged form, in the Isopanishad. It is indeed far higher in realisational value than the Bhagavadgita. Look at this verse :- It moves and it does not move; it is far and it is near; it is both inside and outside; it is both transcendent and immanent." According to Iopanishad, all such contradictions are reconciled in self-realisation. There is another verse in that Upanishad which tells us how its author was first able to see the Zustre of God, then the Form of God, and finally to identity himself with that Form. In fact, this doctrine of lustre, form and the identity of the Form with one's own self has been excellently stated in the Isopanishad. Kathopanishad One of the most striking ideas that we find in the Bhagavadgita, namely, the idea of Asvattha in the fifteenth chapter of that work, owes its origin and inspiration to the Katha, where we have that famous verse : But there is one fundamental difference between the description of the Asvattha in the Katha and in the Bhagavadgita. In the Bhagavadgita we read, It is the business of man here below to cut down this tree of unreality. In fact, the Asvattha is the tree of unreality and equivalent to Samsara in the Bhagavadgita. On the other hand to the Kathopanishad the Asvattha is real and is equivalent to Brahman. We have a conception of Igdrassil, or the ash tree in the Scandinavian mythology where we are also told that is our business to cut down that tree. The ash tree :is not far different from the Asvattha. So there is a parallelism between the Bhagavadgita and the Scandinavian mythology rather the between the Bhagavadgita and the Kathopanishad How the change was made from the reality of the Asvattha to its is reality is hard to comprehend. Nevertheless, the standpoints of the two are different, and just as it is true to say that the World is God, and also in a sense its, the to say that the World is not God, similarly support for the one may be found in the Kathopanishad and for the other in the Bhagavadgita. Mundakopanishad The Mundakopanishad supplies us with a conception which assumes very great importance in the Bhagavadgita. It is the idea of the Visvarupa, which probably first originated with the Purusa-Sukta. The Mundaka Upanishad developed it a little more, while it was fully developed later on by the Bhagavadgita. The Purusa-Sukta talks of while in the Muadaka we read This, in fact, is in miniature a description of the Visvarupa of the Bhagavadgita. We are told here how the eyes of the Visvarupa are the sun and the moon, the ears are the quarters and his speech the Vedas. Further, the head is supplied by fire and the earth supplies the feet. The wind constitutes the Prana of that Visvarupa, while its heart is made up by the empyrean. In this way, we have a miniature description of the Visvarupa in the Mundaka which we find more .fully developed in the Bhagavadgita. Secondly, in the Mundaka we have a very fine description of the antinomy between ritualism and non-ritualism, which also we find later in the Bhagavadgita; and the most wonderful thing is that the descriptions in the two works are in close proximity to each other. Thus, in the Mundaka we find a passage, exhorting us to do sacrificial action. In contrast to this and immediately following upon this in the same chapter is the passage :which exhorts non-ritualism and tells us that while a life. of sacrifice is destined to lead us from existence to existence, a Iife of contemplation takes us towards God. The essence of the teaching is that we cannot find reality in the Mantras. They are merely rafts which are likely to sink in the ocean of life. Therefore,, we must hold on to the steers-man, namely, God, who, will take us to the other shore. In the Bhagavadgita also we have two similar passages; where sacrificial life is exalted and where the sacrificial life is condemned, and we are told that the spiritual life is much higher than the sacrificial life. In fact, sacrificial action will lead us nowhere, We must resort to God in order to be able to reach our highest ideal. Chandogya Upanishad A striking illustration of the indebtedness of the Bhagavadgita to the Upanishads occurs in the Chandogya Upanishad, in a passage of extreme difficulty which it is not possible to solve satisfactorily. Let us quote the passage from the Chandogya Upanishad we are referring to : Now look at the proper names and expressions that occur in this passage. First comes Ghora Angirasa, then Krsna as the son of Devaki : then follows the mention of the five virtues- and then the Upanishad speaks about the ( the time of death ) ; and finally, about the three ideas involved in to which a man must resort at the time of death. Now let us see how there is a connecting link between the Chandogya on the one hand and the Rgveda on the other, In fact, the passage from the Chandogya is so full of; mystery that it may not be possible for any one to solve it. If we consider the connection of the Chandogya with the Rgveda, we shall see that Krsna is already mentioned twice in the Rgveda, as Rsi a hymn to the Asvins. Let us quote these verses in full : Then secondly, this Rsi, Krsna, is called Angirasa in the Anukramapika of the Rgveda. We are not yet told that he had anything to do with Ghora, or how he was related to Ghora Angirasa. But that Krsna is called an Angirasa is enough for our present purpose. Finally, the name Ghora Angirasa itself occurs in a passage of the Rgveda, in the Hymn to Sarama where Sarama says : It is only Indra and Ghora Hngirasa that know ; I do not know either brotherhood or sisterhood. " So, if we pur these passages together, we shall see that Krsna, who was a Rsi, was known at the time of the Rgveda and also that he was called an Angirasa in the Anukramanika, while the name Ghora Angirasa has been particularly mentioned in the hymn to Sarama, can also see from these references that Krsna and Ghora Hngirasa are mentioned in the Rgveda, while the Chandogya puts them together and establishes a relation ship of disciple and teacher between Krsna on the one hand and Ghora Tngirasa on the other, The Chandogya also adds the word Devakiputra which takes one to the Mahabharata or the Bhagavadgita. We know nothing about Devakiputra Krsna in the Rgveda and hence arises the liaison of the Chandogya with the Bhagavadgita. In this connection there are three important points to be noted. In the first place, the same virtues which have been mentioned in the Chandogya are also mentioned in the Bhagavadgita. of the Chandogya have been mentioned in the sixteenth chapter of the Bhagavadgita. Now all the five virtues of Chandogya have been mentioned here, but there is a little difference. The three virtues, Arjava, Ahimsa and Satya, exactly in the same order and Dana and Tapas interchange places. there are certain other virtues mentioned in the Bhagavadgita, which we do not find in the chandogya, such as . But that the five principal virtyes of the Chandogya have been mentioned in two consecutive lines of the Bhagavadgita is a wonderful resemblance. It is beyond question that the Bhagavadgita was indebted to the chandogya for the conception of these five virtues. Secondly, the chandogya tells us that at the time of death we should meditate on the three conceptions,In fact, this contemplation is bound to be idealogical. On the other hand, we are told in the Bhagavadgita that at the time of death we should meditate on OM as a symbol of God . So even though there is no identity between the ideas and the Mantra, the conception of meditation on some symbol of God at the time of death is common to both. Thirdly, and this is a very important and new point, the Gita also extends a friendly hand to the Chandogya. the Bhagavadgita calls Samaveda the highest of the Vedas, This is a very peculiar statement for before this and even after this, the Samaveda has not been regarde Sveta'svataropanishad Finally, we shall see how much the Bhagavadgita is indebted to the Svetasvatara Upanishad for its Yogic teachings. In fact, the Svetasvatara Upanishad might be regarded as giving us one of the most important descriptions of Yoga that have been made. In about nine or ten verses it describes all the conditions that are required for perfection in Yoga. The Bhagavadgita has been a popular summary of this description, while the Svetasvatara Upanishad might be regarded as supplying these ideas even to the great Patanjali. We know in the sixth chapter of the Bhagavadgita how much and in what terms it describes the practice of Yoga. Let us see how this teaching is indebted to the original teaching of the Svetasvatara (II, 8-14). In the first place, the Svetasvatara tells us that we must select s proper place for meditation Then it tells us to hold the body erect, especially its three parts, chest, neck and head (Thirdly, it advises us to control our breath . Not merely this, it tells us further that our senses must be regulated by our mind Further, when this sytsem of Yoga is being practised, there are certain early physinlogical effects-lightness of body, healthiness), beautiful colour of the body, a sonorous voice and so on. Also we are told how the practice of Yoga enables us to conquer both disease and old age It also talks of the conquest of death but this is no simple matter. Further, we are let into the secret of early mystical experiences, such as those of and. Two other kinds of early experiences, also are mentioned, which are not so well known, namely, Anil or wind, and Asani or thunderbolt. These experiences make an appeal to sense's other than that of vision. Anila, for example, refers to the touch sense, and Asani to the organ of audition. Further, the acme of spiritual life is obtained by the Yogic process, when the Yogic is able to visualise his own Self It is a very fine Form, full of lustre, which appears to the vision of the Yogic, and when he has seen this Form, he experiences his ultimate identity with that Form. By the self he is able to reach the finds an equation between the two as in the expressions and and to him it is a matter of experience reached through Yogic process and not intellectually. We see here how all these stages of Yogic development have been mentioned by the Svetasvatara : the place, the posture, the breath, the sense-control, the physiological effects, the conquest of disease and old age, the early mystical experiences, the vision of the Self, and the ultimate identity of Self with God. It is needless for us to point out how the Bhagavadgita takes up many of these ideas and weaves them into its system of Yoga which is known to all the students of that great work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2000 Report Share Posted January 20, 2000 Ram-ji, Great article! Where/when was it published? --Greg At 09:41 AM 1/20/00 -0500, Ram Chandran wrote: >Ram Chandran <chandran > >Greetings: > >We are in the beginning of Gita and it is the right time to understand that >the philosophical ideas expressed in Gita comes from the major upanishads. >The following article, a lecture by the well known philosopher saint, Dr. >Ranade is a scholarly description of the relationship between Gita and >Upanishads. This article will give all of us the motivation to undertake Gita >Satsang with dedication, discipline and determination. > >Ram Chandran Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2000 Report Share Posted January 20, 2000 Gregji: Namaskar, You are quite right that this article is great. This artilce is taken from: Bhagavad Gita - The Multimedia Book Version 1.1 ( A Multimedia CD for Windows 95) I find the CD quite valuable and it contains an ocean of articles from many sources. Those who use the CD directly through the computer can not see these hidden materials with in the CD as text files. I was just lucky to find these materials (and there is so much more to come during later part of Gita Satsang) and I am delighted to share with the list. I have written to the CD producer and he has given me permission to quote from the CD. Most of the compilation of articles from different sources was done by Sri. Pandurang a member of the team which is responsible for producing the CD. This CD is a great resource for those who want to find the hidden treasures of Gita. regards, Ram Chandran Greg Goode wrote: > Ram-ji, > > Great article! Where/when was it published? > > --Greg > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2000 Report Share Posted January 20, 2000 Hari Om Sunder: Thanks for pointing out the reference to the book which I overlooked to state. In fact, originally, this book was published by Kanpur University in 1959 and Bharatiya Vidya Bhavan published the later editions. This is a great book and the entire book is also reproduced in the Gita CD that I referred before. Sri Gummuluru in his recent article pointed out about various commentaries to Bhagavad Gita. Dr.Ranade's book contains detailed discussion on commentaries starting from Sankara to modern commentaries from eastern and western authors. This book will be a great resource for the Satsang audience. The first chapter on the 'General Introduction" contains summary of Ranade's discussions in the entire book. I have reproduced it for the benefit of all us to get motivated. regards, Ram Chandran ========================================== General Introduction (" The Bhagavadgita as a Philosophy of Self-realisation ", (being a clue to through the labyrinth of modern interpretations), by R.D.Ranade) The question of the supreme teaching of the Bhagavadgita has engaged the attention of scholars throughout the centuries. As the title of the present work will show; God-realisation according to us is the supreme teaching of the Bhagavadgita. This has not been properly insisted on by any of the great scholars that have gone by. We shall see presently how both in ancient and modern times they have produced a labyrinth out of which the only way to escape is by holding securely in our hands the thread or clue of God-realisation. The present work is divided into five parts. The first part deals with the ancient systems with which the Bhagavadgita comes into relation. The second part deals with the thought of the middle ages where we find the great Vedantic scholars and spiritual teachers throwing light on the meaning of the Bhagavadgita. The third part deals with a veritable labyrinth that has been produced in the interpretation of the Bhagavadgita by modern scholars during the last century and a half. The fourth part deals with our solution of the problem in terms of contemporary thought and mode of procedure. The last part deals, in a general way, with the conception of the Sublime which has been outlined in the Bhagavadgita and which has assumed great importance with eminent European philosophers, linking it up with the conception of the Divine. It will be necessary for us here to cast a glance at the main points of discussion in these five parts in order that the reader may be able to appreciate better the entire argument of the work. The first part will deal with the Upanisads, the Samkhya-Yoga and the Brahmasutras. Particular attention is drawn in the Upanisad Section to the realisational value of the Isa,, to the reality of the Asvattha in the Katha as against its unreality in the Bhagavadgita, and to the prototype of the Visvarupa of the Bhagavadgita in the Mundaka. Under Samkhya and Yoga we are pointing out how the word Avyakta, used by the Upanisads and the Samkhya philosophy to designate Prakrti,, has been used by the Bhagavadgita to designate Aksara Purusa or Paramagati, how the Trigunas play no less an important part in the Bhagavadgita than in the later Samkhya philosophy, having their physiological correspondence with the cerebral, cardiac and muscular functions, and lastly, how the word Kaivalya has been used to indicate Isolation in Samkhya; Vision of the Self by the Self in Yoga and Unison in Vedanta. In regard to the Brahmasutras and their relation to the Bhagavadgita, this much is certain that there is inter-quotation and inter-reference. It is evident that the Brahmasutras do refer to the Bhagavadgita in that famous Sutra and that the Bhagavadgita refers to Brahmasutras in the expression but what Brahmasutras it refers to cannot be determined. Hence the question of the priority or posteriority of the Bhagavadgita and Brahmasutras remains a very difficult problem to solve. Part II of our work deals with the main points of discussion between the great Vedantic commentators such as Samkara,, Ramanuja, Madhva and Vallabha, as well as with that eminent mystical exponent of the Bhagagavadgita,. Jnasnesvara,, who might easily be regarded as the greatest commentator on the Bhagavadgita that has ever lived. The three principal problems from the Vedantic commentators. with which we shall be dealing are the nature of the Absolute or God, the character of Asat or Not-Being, which they interpret variously, as well as the meaning of Naiskarmya or transcendence of actions which also they interpret differently to suit their own philosophical convenience. Under Jnanesvara We shall see particularly how he discusses poetico-philosophically the nature of the Absolute which he likens to the Cit-Surya, his analysis of the principal mystical emotions which is a contribution to the psychology of religion, as well as his greatest contribution to thought, namely, his doctrine of asymptotic approximation to Reality, which is a veritable landmark in the history of the philosophy of mysticism. Part III and Part IV constitute the central portion of our work. Part III discusses the chief doctrines about the interpretation of the Bhagavadgita that have been advanced by scholars during the last century and a half, while part IV deals with our .examination of them expressed in terms of contemporary thought and modes of reasoning. We shall begin part III with the consideration of the interpolationist theories of Garbe,, Holtzmann and Otto, each scholar coupling his interpolationalism with a philosophical theory of his own, namely, theism, pantheism and holyism. Dr. Bhandarkar's devotionalism is a very mature product, concerned with the investigation of Aikantika Bhakti in the Narayaniya and its parallel in the Bhagavadgita. In addition, he has the credit of disproving the theory of Christian influence on the Bhagavadgita by his investigation into inscriptional, historical and philological evidences. The theory of Christian influence on the Bhagavadgita was put forth by three great Christian scholars, Weber. Lorinser and Lassen; but Farquhar was inclined to take a saner and a more sympathetic view of the philosophies and religions of other lands than his predecessors. Lokamanya Tilak was concerned primarily to show the superiority of Karma to Jnana, Bhakti and Yoga. In regard to the first, by his theory of and by his sympathy with the theory of he tries to prove the superiority of Karma. In regard to the second, he tells us that the essential nature of Bhakti consists in doing actions in devotional spirit, while in regard to Yoga, he tells us that no real Karma is possible unless we possess the Yogic equanimity. With regard to Mahatma Gandhi's doctrine we know how he defines Anasakti as the central Sun round which revolve the three planets of devotion, knowledge and works-Bhakti, Jnana and Karma- while he regards Ahimsa itself as an aspect of Anasakti. His analysis of Anasakti is remarkable in resolving it into three component parts of desireless action, dedication and surrender. Under the theories advanced by some other modern eminent thinkers, we have the doctrines of socio-theism, triune unity and the world as a puppet-show as the essential teaching of the Bhagavadgita. Dr. Otto's doctrine of Numenism is based on the conception of the Numen which means supernatural divine power, the Isvara of the Bhagavadgita in his scheme being wholly transcendent, and pre-determination and instrumentalism being the two foci round which Numenism moves. Finally, in Aurobindo, we find the doctrine of ascent of matter into spirit, of which his doctrine of Avatara is a specification, as well as his interpretation of the Gnostic Ideal which claims our sympathy. In regard to the Bhagavadgita, he puts forth certain doctrines which might to all appearances look heterodox, but which might be supported by the Absolutistic philosophy, namely, doctrines such as those of the Bhagavadgita not being a book of ethics at all but of spiritual life, of the impossibility of all desireless and disinterested action, and of the abandonment of all standards of duty in favour of the supreme duty of self-surrender. When we consider all the above different interpretations of the bind ourselves perplexed and may not know how to escape from this labyrinth. Is there a clue which might enable us to come out of it ? Part IV deals with our own constructive effort for the interpretation of the Bhagavadgita in terms of the supreme clue of God-realisation. The clue has been missed by the great interpreters of the past, and hence we lay stress on it in terms of contemporary thought and ways of reasoning. We. shall speak first of the antinomies in the Bhagavadgita as 'in Kant. We shall find almost the same antinomies in the Bhagavadgita, namely, those concerning God, the world and causality. Then we proceed to a discussion of the Categorical Imperative in the Bhagavadgita as in Kant, namely, duty for duty's sake, its three specifications here being those of non-attachment, skill and sacrifice and In regard to Super-moralism, which is a favourite doctrine with certain eminent modern moralists, we shall find that the Bhagavadgita advises us to rise above qualities and actions and to reach and while in regard to Beatificism, it gives us an insight into the relation of beatification to equanimity, at the same time suggesting that beatification is itself Brahman. So far as the criteria of the reality of God-experience are concerned, three very important criteria emerge from the Bhagavadgita Supersensuousness, central initiation and continuity, which might easily be regarded as a great contribution to psycho-epistemology. As regards the method of meditation, the Bhagavadgita makes original suggestions in respect of meditation on metaphysical conceptions, such as the Sutra, Vaisvanara and Tajjalan, as well as on moral and social virtues. Finally, in regard to the Sublime Vision of God, which is the supreme goal according to the Bhagavadgita, we find in the description of the . experiences such as those of splendour, wonder, terror and joy, which link it up with a universal philosophy of the Sublime. Part V deals with the relation of the Sublime to the Divine. We will show here how the Sublime leads to the Divine, taking illustrations from metaphysics, science and morality, thus supporting the upshot of the teachings of the Bhagavadgita which we have noticed at the end of the last part. ( 1 ) :Under metaphysics, we deal with Otto, whose `Idea of the Holy' puts forth the doctrine of the 'Mysterium Trimendum and regards the Numinous as a complex of the feelings of mystery, wonder, power,, terror, reverence and joy, which are closely allied to the feelings expressed in the eleventh chapter of the Bhagavadgita referred to at the end of the last part. Then we pass on to Kant who has done more for the Sublime 'than any other philosopher and whose Critique" of Judgment is almost the final word about the nature of the Sublime. We disagree with him a little, however, when he puts the Sublime in between taste and teleology, while we regard the Sublime as higher ;than teleology. His classical distinction between the mathematical Sublime and the dynamical Sublime is illustrated in the universe in the distinction between magnitude and force; but greater than any other force, as Kant tells us, is the force of inner consciousness. Anaximander, a great ancient Greek philosopher, has already linked up the questions of the Infinite and the Divine, the Apeiron and the to Theion. (2)After the treatment of the Sublime in metaphysics, we go on to its treatment in the realm of science, taking examples from geology, meteorology and astronomy where respectively the phenomena of the earthquakes, the Aurora Borealis .and the heavenly alligator are supurb illustrations of the 'Sublime in nature. (3) Finally, we proceed to the Sublime in morality. No greater statement has been made by Kant than when he says that there is nothing more sublime in the world than the moral. This is, of course, in his early works, the three Critiques. But when we come to his Opus Postumum, a post- humously published work, we find statements which are incomparably higher than what we find in the Critiques referred to. Here he demolishes his old conceptions of the Summum Bonum and the Categorical Imperative. The Summum Bonum, he tells Us here, cannot lead us to God; it remains only a conception. The Categorical Imperative instead of remaining a nudity is here regarded as the Command of the Inner Being, the voice of the Imperantis who holds universal sway. And finally, 'what is strangest of all' he tells us in cryptic, `I am myself this Being'. We thus see how the ideas of the Sublime, the Moral and the Divine may be connected together in any great system of philosophy. We shall show how these are connected together in the development of the doctrine of the Bhagavadgita. =================================================== Sunder Hattangadi wrote: > > "Sunder Hattangadi" <sunderh > > Namaste, > > The articles are available in the book: > > " The Bhagavadgita as a Philosophy of Self-realisation ", (being a clue to > through the labyrinth of modern interpretations), by R.D.Ranade > > Publ.: Bharatiya Vidya Bhavan, Bombay, 3rd. edition 1982 > > They have a branch in New York City. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2000 Report Share Posted January 20, 2000 Ram Chandran wrote: > ================================================================= > Bhagavad Gita and The Upanishads - The Connection: By Dr. Ranade > > "[...] ... even though there are some passages referring to > self-realisation in the Bhagavadgita, we find the doctrine > of self-realisation almost in its full-fledged form, in > the Isopanishad. It is indeed far higher in realisational > value than the Bhagavadgita. Look at this verse :- > It moves and it does not move; it is far and it is near; > it is both inside and outside; it is both transcendent and > immanent." According to Isopanishad, all such contradictions > are reconciled in self-realisation. There is another verse > in that Upanishad which tells us how its author was first > able to see the Lustre of God, then the Form of God, and > finally to identity himself with that Form. In fact, this > doctrine of lustre, form and the identity of the Form with > one's own self has been excellently stated in the Isopanishad." > this is a monumental point! it is in fact the essence of advaita. to embrace the whole of What Is, and not allow the perpetuation of any ideas that there is any real duality in place anywhere, anytime. for if we define that which establishes itself as immanent before us, as unreal and to be rejected, we are engaging in a battle that has no end, since maya is regarded as beginningless and endless (Sankara has also emphasized this in Vivekachudamani). this implies that consciousness in its highest form will yet have maya as its intimate constituent. Sankara's formula only specifically exposes the fact that maya, taken *unto itself and apart* from its source in brahman, is unreal. otherwise it is brahman itself [in manifestation as saguna]. i've made this point numerous times because i feel it's an important one. why? because if we view maya as something alien and to be rejected, while regarding the fact that maya is eternal, we'll then also be in an eternal battle, attempting to eliminate this 'illusion.' conversely, to embrace maya as a component within one's totality, is to eliminate this ancient battle. there are also other concerns. my wife and i were recently given a rare gem of an interpretation/commentary on bhagavad gita by Swami Chidbhavananda, published through the Sri Ramakrishna Tapovanam in 1951. here's an excerpt from the introduction, presenting the swami's view of advaita, further reinforcing the wholistic encompassing of its implications and helping to dispell the popular myth associated with the idea that maya is intrinsically and utterly unreal and thus something to be despised and eliminated: "What are termed Jagat and Jiva and Brahman are not really separate entities. Reality is one without a second. It is Existence-knowledge-Bliss Infinite. It has intrinsic power to manifest Itself as the Jagat and the Jiva. This inherent power goes by the name of Maya. Brahman and Maya are inseperable. This is the implication of the word Advaita. It is because of this ignorance that the Jiva fancies that he is separate from the universe and the Substratum behind it. With the dawn of knowledge this feeling of difference vanishes. The Reality alone exists. Because of its Mayashakti It manifests Itself as as the Jiva and the Jagat. Resolving this shakti into Itself, It also remains unmanifest. In its kinetic state it is Saguna Brahman (Conditioned Reality), in the static Nirguna (Absolute Reality)." namaste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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