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Greetings Ram,

 

I'm delighted that you find my posts so

congenial. Yet there is a thread running

through them

which I think may sooner or later cause

us to have a public disagreement! I'm

referring to statements

like

> our culture which is

> heavily invested in maintaining the

> illusion that we are autonomous doers

> (we would clearly have problems with the

> ideas of criminal and moral

> responsibility if it was thrown out)

 

I believe that one consequence of

recognizing the ego as illusory is that

the whole business of morality --- what

it means for us to be accountable to

each other --- has to thought out again

from the ground up. I don't think its an

exaggeration to say that all ethical

codes to date are based on the idea that

we are autonomous doers; how would

ethics work in a society where everybody

recognized that we are not? How would

ethics work if we all recognized that

'all things

follow from the necessity of the divine

nature'?

 

In case anyone is interested there is a

book which sheds some very interesting

historical light on this question,

_The origin of consciousness in the

breakdown of the bicameral mind_ by

Julian Jaynes. The `origin of

consciousness' here

is the emergence of the ego which Jaynes

maintains (very convincingly) is

something that took place very recently

(2500 -- 3000 years ago, depending on

the culture) and the `bicameral mind'

refers to an extraordinary theory he has

developed about how societies were

organized before people came to believe

that they were autonomous doers.

According to Jaynes the emergence of the

ego took place after the Vedas were

composed but before the Upanishads,

after the Illiad but before the Odyssey

and the book which records the emergence

itself better than any other is, of all

things, the Old Testament. In particular

the Law of Moses is a fruit of the

breakdown of the bicameral mind. That

is, ethics emerged with the ego (and I'm

inclined to suspect that it will

disappear with the ego as well but it's

anybody's guess what will replace it).

 

Regards,

 

Patrick

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That is, ethics emerged with the ego (and I'm

inclined to suspect that it will

disappear with the ego as well but it's

anybody's guess what will replace it).

 

Regards,

 

Patrick

 

I love what you are saying Patrick!

When the ego disappears, no one remains to care what is being replaced with

what.

Guessing is the favorite past time of the mind to keep itself endlessly

occupied.

 

Smile! You are on candid camera. :--).

 

Harsha

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