the mind does too see the Self

[Guest guest]

Greetings Anand

 

You wrote

> The question we have to ask ourselves is "What right does the ego or the mind

(whichever you prefer) have to

> judge what is or what is not realization ?". The mind or the intellect cannot

judge or reach the Self.

 

but consider the Katha Upanishad I.3.12

 

The Self, though hidden in all beings,

does not shine forth but can be seen by

those subtle seers through

their sharp and subtle intelligence

(buddhi).

 

and the Gita VI.21

 

That [the Self] in which he knows that

which is boundless happiness,

Beyond the senses but perceivable by

understanding (buddhi),

And in which, established,

He knows this and swerves not from the

truth;

 

Regards,

 

Patrick

[Guest guest]

Namaste Patrickji,

 

What is spoken of is the Buddhi or Chetana not the mind or the

intellect as we know it. That mind made one pointed by constant practise loses

its attachment to the senses. Once attachment to the senses is lost, the Buddhi

is clean and not clouded. So one reverts to the Mind and Self discussion, that

the purified mind is the Self and the unrealized Atman is what we call mind.

Kathopanishad mentions Seer Or Rishi. Rishi is defined as a Mantra

Drashta ,one who has realized the meaning behind Mantras or who sees the

Mantras.

 

Regards,

 

Anand

 

On Fri, 03 Mar 2000 09:03:56 Patrick Kenny wrote:

 

The Self, though hidden in all beings,

does not shine forth but can be seen by

those subtle seers through

their sharp and subtle intelligence

(buddhi).

 

and the Gita VI.21

 

That [the Self] in which he knows that

which is boundless happiness,

Beyond the senses but perceivable by

understanding (buddhi),

And in which, established,

He knows this and swerves not from the

truth;

 

 

A FREE web-based e-mail service brought to you by the PC World Technology

Network.

Get your FREE account today at http://www.myworldmail.com