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Patrick,

 

Some interesting observations (I particularly liked the quotation from

Goethe) but I have problems with the way that you talk about the world. (If

I understand what you are saying correctly, so, I believe, would most

others on this list.)

 

I was with you up until your statement that <Since the world is infinite no

individual can be endowed with a 'God's eye' view of the world but it is

the aggregate of these limited individual perspectives which constitute

what Spinoza calls 'the infinite intellect of God'.>

 

You see I do not believe that the world is ultimately real. See Sadananda's

excellent analysis of 'real vs unreal vs appearance' in the last digest

(Tues 7th March). And I do not believe there are any individuals, only

appearances of minds, clouded by ignorance.

 

I agree that 'neti, neti' IS used to help the student begin to break down

his identifications but I also think this aphorism goes all the way, as I

suggested in my last post, and I feel that this was its ultimate intended

meaning. (It would not really make sense to negate something that doesn't

exist in the first place!) But what do you mean by "The only 'thing' that

will not be destroyed is the world itself... ?" How is the world different

in this respect from all other (implied) objects? Agreed it will last a

little longer than most but in terms of the eternal reality, it will be

gone in an instant.

 

What exactly is your problem with respect to mind, ego and identification?

Can you put it in terms of manas, buddhi, chitta, ahaNkAra, Atman? I would

be extremely surprised (but most intrigued!) if there are no references in

the scriptures.

 

Regards,

 

Dennis

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