Guest guest Posted April 1, 2000 Report Share Posted April 1, 2000 Further to Anurag's posting to the Ramakrishna List Anurag Goel <anurag <snip> >The phase of talk was in EPR ( Einstein, I don't remember names >of the two Russian scientists ) paradox and the famous debate between >Einstein and Bohr on " Relativity and Quantum Mechanics" which resulted >in to EPR Paradox. >The paradox got resolved when an great experiment was done in all >sophistication. And it was found that information does travel at speed >greater than that of light. >The final conclusion was that if a electron changes it's spin then some >other electron which can be anywhere in the universe instantaneously >changes its spin violating the limit of speed of light as if the electrons >are conscious of each other. Anurag Goel <anurag ------------------- Response from Jay Swami Vivekananda had said something like:- At some stage science and spirituality have to meet. They cannot continue to exist independently of each other. There has to be a link, else we will have two exclusive disciplines - that state of affairs cannot be maintained - there has to be a link even if it is purely anthropomorphic (us). What we are finding out with the present Science is this meeting of diverse disciplines. The Scientist is true to his subject and will not tolerate 'spirituality' into his realm. That is fine. He continues to develop his subject under strict scientific disciplines. The greatest challenge science faces is trying to come to grips with ideas of quantum mechanics. Quantum mechanics is the very basis of all of modern science. QM - forms the basis of explaining say the DNA molecule, the computer chip, all elementary particle behaviour, nuclear physics etc. QM permeates all aspects of modern science. The atom would collapse without QM. But QM defies 'classical physical understanding' that formed the basis of science so far. The philosophy of the Greeks which founded 'classical physics' is unable to handle this new phenomenon. There is no parallel in Greek thoughts which can handle QM. Let me give you an example. The experiment that Anurag mentioned is called the Aspect experiment that was carried out to show that there 'seems' to be an instantaneous link between say two electrons (or to photons). The key word here is 'instantaneous -- there is a link that cannot be explained by classical ideas. This is unusual as it is difficult to explain how two material things like the electrons are linked to each other. 'They seem to be aware of each other' - This does not seem like the language of science anymore, does it? This is where we are at the moment. I suspect that we are in for a great deal of 'fun and games' when these two major disciplines are forced together! We wait and watch. regards jay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2000 Report Share Posted April 1, 2000 Namaste, AnandJi's points have a solid backing in the Gita. Gita, VII:5, discusses aparaa and paraa prakR^itii. Science deals only with the former. The study of the latter requires much more than intellect - dharma in its widest connotation. Again, in XIII:2, Gita discusses kshetra and kshetraj~na; kshetra is the domain of science[as currently understtod], and kshetraj~na is the domain of adhyaatma-vidyaa. The 'saadhanaa' for the latter has no parallel in the former It is a bitter fact of life that while paraa vidyaa embraces aparaa vidyaa with joy, the reverse is fraught with pain. Regards, s. >"Anand Natarajan" <anandn >advaitin >advaitin >Re: Science and Spirituality >Sat, 01 Apr 2000 15:08:02 -0800 > > >Om, > >If what you mean by science ____ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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