Guest guest Posted April 23, 2000 Report Share Posted April 23, 2000 Hi everyone. I very much am appreciating Frank's message of non judgement, especially for oneself, & how if we react to another it is reflecting a disowned aspect of ourself calling for Love basically. Message: 9 Fri, 31 Mar 2000 07:09:16 -0800 (PST) f maiello <egodust OM hariH OM! namaskaaram. finally, the way is to mind only Being. all else leads up to this... once it is accomplished, ONE is no longer even aware that such is taking place. ONE thus becomes what ONE ever is, the Now Itself, the satchidananda. OM ramanarpanamasthu OM nithyakhandamounananda OM shaanthi shaanthi shaanthiH Now Frank, Hi! I want to ask you & the others, if you think that even witnessing may be kind of dualistic .. as in sitting back removed watching .. something. And whether it may progress into absorption into Being, which is Consciousness and Its Play ~ so feeling ordinary, & personal after Impersonal awakening to Source? And whether the play of duality is then still occuring as before, but that this is now a conscious process of co-operative evolution (surrender As). Not like the resistance of judgement, as before. Oh I would like to share part of the Astavakra Gita ~ this translation is by Thomas Byrom, please feel free to share other translations .. 'With the pincers of truth I have plucked >From the dark corners of my heart The thorn of many judgements ... Yesterday I lived bewildered, In illusion. But now I am awake, Flawless & serene, Beyond the world. >From my light The body & the world arise. So all things are mine, Or nothing is ... When the world arises in me, It is just an illusion; Water shimmering in the sun, A vein of silver in mother of pearl, A serpent in a strand of rope .. Two from one! This is the root of suffering. Only perceive That I am one without two, Pure awareness, pure joy, And all the world is false. There is no other remedy! Through ignorance I once imagined I was bound. But I am pure awareness.' :-) Love to All, Colette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2000 Report Share Posted April 24, 2000 Colette wrote: > Now Frank, Hi! I want to ask you & the others, if you think that > even witnessing may be kind of dualistic .. as in sitting back > removed watching .. something. > > And whether it may progress into absorption into Being, which is > Consciousness and Its Play ~ so feeling ordinary, & personal after > Impersonal awakening to Source? And whether the play of duality is > then still occuring as before, but that this is now a conscious > process of co-operative evolution (surrender As). Not like the > resistance of judgement, as before. > > Oh I would like to share part of the Astavakra Gita > yes of course witnessing must be dualistic by virtue of the mechanics of the very process itself. yet you hit on the keyword, "Play." ...it quite *does* progress into the process you described as an "absorption into Being" thus aligned with the conscious "co-operative evolution (surrender AS)" *beyond* the former infliction involved in the creation and sustenance of the divisive obsession through judgment: that which upholds/reinforces the self/not-self chasm of separativeness and thus its historic dynamic of suffering. yes, astavakra gita is my favorite. but, again, it should be remembered that--as i pointed out in the last post--all expositional teachings, perceived in an overview, will reveal contradictions. in fact, i would say for even more reasons than i cited in that post. we have to remember that all of these philosophical approaches and methodologies are only strategies to conquer the tendency of the Mind to pin down our spirit! to jail us accordingly, by concepts and precepts! thus they have to be eventually released...and *this* yields moksha! freedom. we have to cultivate the art of Being; not the art of Knowing. OM svaha! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2000 Report Share Posted April 24, 2000 Hi, this is a very interesting and fundamental question my friend See when there is a cyclon there are two ways of finding peace: you can go far from it and witness it or you go in the eye of it and experience peace. There there is no duality left. Witnessing gives you rest from the disturbancy of the cyclon. In the center you are one with it and with no need to take rest from the disturbancy of it. Luciamo advaitin , "f. maiello" <egodust@d...> wrote: > Colette wrote: > > > Now Frank, Hi! I want to ask you & the others, if you think that > > even witnessing may be kind of dualistic .. as in sitting back > > removed watching .. something. > > > > And whether it may progress into absorption into Being, which is > > Consciousness and Its Play ~ so feeling ordinary, & personal after > > Impersonal awakening to Source? And whether the play of duality is > > then still occuring as before, but that this is now a conscious > > process of co-operative evolution (surrender As). Not like the > > resistance of judgement, as before. > > > > Oh I would like to share part of the Astavakra Gita > > > > yes of course witnessing must be dualistic by virtue > of the mechanics of the very process itself. > > yet you hit on the keyword, "Play." ...it quite *does* > progress into the process you described as an "absorption > into Being" thus aligned with the conscious "co-operative > evolution (surrender AS)" *beyond* the former infliction > involved in the creation and sustenance of the divisive > obsession through judgment: that which upholds/reinforces > the self/not-self chasm of separativeness and thus its > historic dynamic of suffering. > > yes, astavakra gita is my favorite. but, again, it should > be remembered that--as i pointed out in the last post--all > expositional teachings, perceived in an overview, will > reveal contradictions. in fact, i would say for even more > reasons than i cited in that post. we have to remember that > all of these philosophical approaches and methodologies are > only strategies to conquer the tendency of the Mind to pin > down our spirit! to jail us accordingly, by concepts and > precepts! thus they have to be eventually released...and > *this* yields moksha! freedom. > > we have to cultivate the art of Being; not the art of Knowing. > > OM svaha! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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