EHV and who follows

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Namaste All,

>Make our children understand love, the future world

will

become

love, make our children understand compassion,

friendship and all human

values. The nation will shine with human values,

understanding.

Thank you

and all the best to you. <

 

 

All lovely but it would be nicer if you didn't mention

the name of that pedophile, molesting, conjuring fraud

Sai Baba,Raju really, in the same post. Just say EHV

for he follows none of his human values.

 

http://www.bridgeoflove.com/bookstore/icke/magazine/vol12/articles/saibaba.html

 

http://www.bridgeoflove.com/bookstore/icke/magazine/vol12/articles/findings1.htm\

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Om Namah Sivaya, Tony.

 

 

 

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THAMASO MA JYOTHIR GAMAYA, From darkness, lead me to light,

MRITHYOR MA AMRITAM GAMAYA.From death, lead me to immortality.

OM, SHANTI SHANTI SHANTI. Om, Peace Peace Peace.

 

 

 

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Slander is common to great people. All great people be they Sri Krishna ,

Christ, Sri Ramakrishna, Swami Vivekananda were all subject to slander and

persecution.

To my best of knowledge this is not a list group supporting slander. So refrain

from making comments on great people. If you do not believe them , thats your

private opinion. Keep it at that.

For that matter there were some British authors who insulted Mother Teresa.

There was some other westerner who ridiculed Sri Ramakrishna in a novel

recently. You will always find some western novel criticising Sri Krishna for

His Raasa Leela. I rate your websites equivalent to these.

However Indian saints have always maintained that wonderful saying of the

Buddha,

"If you spit into the sky , that spittle will fall on you only"

 

Regards,

Anand

 

 

 

On Mon, 22 May 2000 13:31:21 Tony O'Clery wrote:

 

 

 

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Dear Tony,

 

Om namaH SivAya!

 

1. Irrespective of the personal feelings, In the interest of keeping the

sanctity of the forum, I would advise you to refrain from making such

comments on this list.

2. For a moment, forget about the person in question is acclaimed as a

saint. Let us think of him as a human, all those words you uttered against

any human are subjected to question.

3. You seem to be believing in Lord Shiva. If you want to be --- what you

appear to be --- then please refrain from making demeaning comments on

HUMANS.

 

There are three types of being exists in this universe. (a) Those who do

completely good (b) Those who do completely bad © Those who do both good

and bad.

 

1) The people who completely do good [as in (a)], are considered to be Gods.

And they belong to the "DevalOka" Celestial heaven. The place where Gods

live.

2) The people who completely do bad [as in (b)], are considered to be

Demons. And they belong to the "rAkshasalOka" Place where demons live.

3) The people who does both good and bad, are considered to be "Manava"

humans. This earth (the lonely planet in this universe) is designed for

human inhabitants. We do good and we also do bad. Gita says "anityamasukhaM

lOkaM" --- This world is not eternal, and there is no happiness here, in

deed it is the abode of Grief. The intelligent way of getting rid of it

is, as per Gita, to be neutral -- to pleasure and pain, towards friends and

foes.... You don't need to praise a friend and demean a foe, both make you

fall from your divinity.

 

As you seem to be a Siva Bhakta, now, let me give you a practical example

from our Siva Aradhana. All our epics say that chanting the Satrrudriya

(the mantas chanting which priests perform the holy water bath to the

sivalinga) is the greatest penance. Sri Yagnavalkya, the great seer of

"Sukla Yajurveda", being questioned on which mantra is the greatest, replies

thus:

 

"yaH Sata rudriya madheeyatE sOgni pootO bhavati, agamya gamanAt pootO

bhavati, patita saMbhAshaNAt pootO bhavati"

He who understands/contemplates Satarudriya, he becomes purified like a

fire, he gets rid of the sins he incurred after visiting the forbidden

places, he gets rid of the sin of indulging in loose talk.

 

Let us see, what exactly this "Satarudriya" says: It says "I bow to thee Oh

Lord Shiva, the Almighty, you are in the shape of deceivers, and who is the

leader of deceivers. I bow to thee Oh Lord Shiva, you are personified as

cheaters, and you are the greatest cheater. I bow to thee Oh Lord Shiva,

you are personified as dacoits, those who kill and steal..."

 

Tony --- did you get the message? The message is, *HE* personified as all

the things in this *HUMAN* world, he is there as good and also as bad. Our

goal is to have vision of unity, not diversity. As long as you see a snake

in a rope you are afraid. There is never a snake, that which is there is

only you. Not even a rope. Lord Shiva with in you, is making you fear the

rope, which is not there in the first place, as a snake. I bet, what you

see as a snake may appear to the others as rope only.

 

I pray Lord Shiva to guide you.. I remain yours.

 

Om Namah Sivaya, Tony.

Om Namah Sivaya, Madhava

 

 

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THAMASO MA JYOTHIR GAMAYA, From darkness, lead me to light,

MRITHYOR MA AMRITAM GAMAYA.From death, lead me to immortality.

OM, SHANTI SHANTI SHANTI. Om, Peace Peace Peace.

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Hari Om!

 

The Chief Moderator, Madhavaji's observation is quite

timely and I fully agree.

 

As one of the comoderators of the list, I just want to

remind the members that Advaitin List does not endorse

any "Links" suggested in any postings from the

members.

 

The moderators request members to make sure that the

suggested links are free from unspiritual slandering

of religious leaders with spiritual followers. The

list respect all religions and all leaders whether we

agree or disagree with their viewpoints. We believe in

directing our attention to spirituality and want to

avoid make judgements.

 

On the whole, almost all members do not indulge in

posting improper materials or links and we want to

thank the members for their cooperation and

understanding,

 

regards,

 

Ram Chandran

 

 

 

 

--- "Madhava K. Turumella" <madhava

wrote:

> Dear Tony,

>

> Om namaH SivAya!

>

> 1. Irrespective of the personal feelings, In the

> interest of keeping the

> sanctity of the forum, I would advise you to refrain

> from making such

> comments on this list.