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Namaste All,

> It is my understanding that Karma Yoga is a choice

> for

> suitable personalities. However it is also my

> understanding that it must be nishkarma karma for it

> to be effective fully.

>

> In other words it is for two reasons we do karma

> yoga:

>

> 1.) To give the mind something to do, that is good

> and

> useful. Training the monkey on the wall!

>

> 2.) To lessen the ego by diluting it. This by taking

> one's mind off oneself and thinking of other's

> needs.

>

> However if the Karma Yoga is done in the form of

> Seva

> and one has the feeling, 'I am helping, I am doing

> Seva', then it is not Seva, for that is

> strengthening

> the ego. As Jesus said,' It is not I but my Father

> that is in me that does the work.' Seva is an

> opportunity for the doer not particularly the

> recipient of the act. If it wasn't you helping it

> would be someone else.

>

> There are different yogas for different people. That

> is how I understand it. With only one aim, the

> elimination of the feeling of ego --ahamkara! Any

> method that stills and eliminates thought is the

> right

> one.

>

> Om Namah Sivaya, Tony.

 

 

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ASATHO MA SATH GAMAYA, From the unreal lead me to the real,

THAMASO MA JYOTHIR GAMAYA, From darkness, lead me to light,

MRITHYOR MA AMRITAM GAMAYA.From death, lead me to immortality.

OM, SHANTI SHANTI SHANTI. Om, Peace Peace Peace.

 

 

 

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Hari Om Tonyji:

 

I agree with your understanding of Karma yoga siting

the quotation from Jesus. The discussions from Gita is

also on the same lines.

 

According to Gita, we should do our duty to the best

of our abilities and accept the outcome without

excitements and disappointments.

 

Your observation that Karma yoga is to remove the

doership feeling (ego) is quite right.

 

Each of us choose (assume that we have a choice!) and

pursue Karma, Bhakti or Jnana Yoga in the beginning.

However, it is impossible to perform karma yoga

without deep love for the Lord. It is also impossible

to do away with the doership without the understanding

that the cause and effects are due to the Lord.

 

A Karma Yogi is necessarily a Bhakti Yogi and a Jnana

yogi. We may perceive some as Karma Yogis, some as

Bhakti Yogis and some as Jnana Yogis. Our perception

is always incomplete and with His grace we will be

able to realize the Truth.

 

regards,

 

Ram Chandran

 

--- Tony O'Clery <aoclery wrote:

>

> Namaste All,

>

> > It is my understanding that Karma Yoga is a choice

> > for

> > suitable personalities. However it is also my

> > understanding that it must be nishkarma karma for

> it

> > to be effective fully.

> >

> > In other words it is for two reasons we do karma

> > yoga:

> >

> > 1.) To give the mind something to do, that is good

> > and

> > useful. Training the monkey on the wall!

> >

> > 2.) To lessen the ego by diluting it. This by

> taking

> > one's mind off oneself and thinking of other's

> > needs.

> >

> > However if the Karma Yoga is done in the form of

> > Seva

> > and one has the feeling, 'I am helping, I am doing

> > Seva', then it is not Seva, for that is

> > strengthening

> > the ego. As Jesus said,' It is not I but my Father

> > that is in me that does the work.' Seva is an

> > opportunity for the doer not particularly the

> > recipient of the act. If it wasn't you helping it

> > would be someone else.

> >

> > There are different yogas for different people.

> That

> > is how I understand it. With only one aim, the

> > elimination of the feeling of ego --ahamkara! Any

> > method that stills and eliminates thought is the

> > right

> > one.

> >

> > Om Namah Sivaya, Tony.

>

>

> =====

> http://members.xoom.com/aoclery/sanskritglos.htm

>

> ASATHO MA SATH GAMAYA, From the unreal lead me to

> the real,

> THAMASO MA JYOTHIR GAMAYA, From darkness, lead me to

> light,

> MRITHYOR MA AMRITAM GAMAYA.From death, lead me to

> immortality.

> OM, SHANTI SHANTI SHANTI. Om, Peace Peace Peace.

>

>

>

> Kick off your party with Invites.

> http://invites./

>

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