Guest guest Posted June 7, 2000 Report Share Posted June 7, 2000 Thank you Concetta. I like your analogy very much given below. It is crisp and clear and I will pass it on to a as well. The discussion between Jodiji and Ramji and subsequent comments by Frankji, Sunderji, Anandaji, Daveji and Sadaji suggest that there can be a great number of variations in our approaches to the Truth but ultimately Truth cannot be subdued by the intellect. Instead, in a mature spiritual personality, it is the intellect and the mind that eventually become a willing prey to the Truth. On the subject of Jivanmukata, let me share this. You might have heard the story. A student asked a Zen Master, "Where does an enlightened master go after he dies? Is he reborn or is he freed from the earth?" The Zen Master answered, "Which direction does a fire go after it is extinguished; to the North or to the South?" Concetta Curtis [starcrazed] Wednesday, June 07, 2000 11:23 AM 'advaitin ' RE: Jivanmukta- Concepts Okay, I am new to this Jivanmukta thing, and I just want to make sure I am getting it. Using something that I am familiar with, Buddhism, lets see if this relates. Is the following analogy in anyway related to THIS concept of Self? This is the way that I am understanding it. Please clarify- "A Buddhist analogy, from Tibetan Book of Living and Dying." Imagine an empty vase. The space inside is exactly the same as the space outside. Only the fragile walls of the vase separate one from the other. Our Buddha mind is enclosed within the walls of ordinary mind. But when we become enlightened, it is as if that vase shatters into pieces. The space inside merges instantly into the space outside. they become one. There and then we realize they were never separate or different, they were always the same. Even if it's not, I love this analogy, and thought I would share with everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2000 Report Share Posted June 7, 2000 Harsha and Concetta seeing the utter simplicity and clarity of the quotes below i can't help but smile and laugh ha ha ha ha ha. But still the subject is still confusing for i guess there is description of different lokas to which the souls go. For example instance Gau Lokaa, and many others. and as experiences of Madhavji says that there are Gods and Godesses. On Wed, 7 Jun 2000, Harsha (Dr. Harsh K. Luthar) wrote: > Thank you Concetta. I like your analogy very much given below. It is crisp > and clear and I will pass it on to a as well. > > The discussion between Jodiji and Ramji and subsequent comments by Frankji, > Sunderji, Anandaji, Daveji and Sadaji suggest that there can be a great > number of variations in our approaches to the Truth but ultimately Truth > cannot be subdued by the intellect. Instead, in a mature spiritual > personality, it is the intellect and the mind that eventually become a > willing prey to the Truth. > > On the subject of Jivanmukata, let me share this. You might have heard the > story. > > A student asked a Zen Master, "Where does an enlightened master go after he > dies? Is he reborn or is he freed from the earth?" > > The Zen Master answered, "Which direction does a fire go after it is > extinguished; > to the North or to the South?" > > > > Concetta Curtis [starcrazed] > Wednesday, June 07, 2000 11:23 AM > 'advaitin ' > RE: Jivanmukta- Concepts > > > Okay, I am new to this Jivanmukta thing, and I just want to make sure I > am getting it. Using something that I am familiar with, Buddhism, lets > see if this relates. Is the following analogy in anyway related to THIS > concept of Self? This is the way that I am understanding it. Please > clarify- > > "A Buddhist analogy, from Tibetan Book of Living and Dying." > > Imagine an empty vase. The space inside is exactly the same as the > space outside. Only the fragile walls of the vase separate one from the > other. Our Buddha mind is enclosed within the walls of ordinary mind. > But when we become enlightened, it is as if that vase shatters into > pieces. The space inside merges instantly into the space outside. they > become one. There and then we realize they were never separate or > different, they were always the same. > > > Even if it's not, I love this analogy, and thought I would share with > everyone. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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